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Fermenting foods: it’s freaking me out!


Robyn Openshaw - Sep 20, 2011 - This Post May Contain Affiliate Links


Dear GreenSmoothieGirl: I really like the idea of adding the Rejuvelac as my green smoothie base, but I’m honestly totally freaked out to leave something perishable on my countertop in an unsealed container for several days. What are the chances that “bad bacteria” get in there and make me sick? I really appreciate any feedback you have. It sounds like a great opportunity to make green smoothies do even more for me, but I can’t get over the initial concept. –Grace

Answer: Grace, I think it might help if I explain the concept a bit more. Fermented foods are part of your diet already, if you eat yogurt or sauerkraut, or even beer. The manufacturer had to let it sit at room temperature for a time, to grow the cultures.

Also, before refrigeration, human beings had a stronger inner terrain and microbes rarely harmed them. Of course, now we have antibiotics that have seriously damaged most people’s balance of beneficial microorganisms colonizing the digestive tract. We also have refined foods weakening us, and few, if any, cultured foods strengthening us. We now seem to believe that killing a couple million of the billions of microscopic critters around us will somehow do the trick.

It’s a weird modern concept that everything we eat has to be sterilized—ancient peoples lived amongst billions of organisms very peacefully for thousands of years. So maybe our food is sterilized, fumigated, pasteurized, irradiated…..but there are billions of organisms everywhere ELSE (which makes the antibiotic wipes a pointless waste of money).

So, it feels unnatural to you but only because of our strange modern traditions, and the fact that we’ve gotten away from eating foods that nurture our gut’s need for healthy colonization. Just ONE course of antibiotics can change the gut’s internal terrain forever.

Every culture of the world eats cultured foods. Some chew up a food and spit it, with their saliva, into an earthen pot, and drink it a week later. (I won’t be teaching you those methods, don’t worry.) There are literally hundreds of types of cultured foods, in traditional / indigenous peoples, and in people who have not completely adopted processed diets.

The most complete and well known work on this concept is Sally Fallon’s Nourishing Traditions, which has some good info but advocates for lots of meat and dairy and a very rich diet. My 12 Steps to Whole Foods program deals with it in a condensed way in Ch. 8 and uses what I feel are a do-able, moderate amount of probiotic foods that do not require us to purchase $10/lb. animal parts. My work focuses on culturing vegetables, optionally some raw, antibiotic- and hormone-free milk, or coconut liquid. (I now culture my coconut liquid before using it in Hot Pink Breakfast Smoothie).

My blog on 9/15 talks about learning vicariously through others—the examples I gave were learning from others’ health disasters. But you can learn from my health victories, too. Does it help you to know that I have had a quart or a half gallon of raw kefir, or yogurt, or coconut kefir, or sprouts, or Rejuvelac, or sauerkraut, on my counter, pretty much every day of my life for the past 17 years? We have had zero instances of problems, illness, food poisoning.

It also helps if you understand the process of how food has historically been preserved. You can preserve foods a few ways. One, drying it to dramatically slow oxidation, which often involves lots of salt. Two, can it by killing all its lifeforce (enzymes and vitamins) so that there’s very little to oxidize, and then sealing it against air and bacteria. Third, utilizing lactobacillus and other beneficial organisms and lactic acid to break down the proteins and preserve the food (fermenting).

The way I make sauerkraut (see Ch. 8 of 12 Steps) is that the unrefined salt preserves it for a few days while the (slower) lactic acid begins to take over. I have two-year old raw sauerkraut (that I preserved with whey from my yogurt/kefir) that has been unsealed (but covered tightly with a lid) that we are still eating. It’s too soft, and it’s better, texture-wise, at six months old. But it’s preserved, and the healthy bacteria help my family stay healthy.

It might help to address the semantics. The word “fermented” has a negative connotation. (Although beer drinkers who wouldn’t be caught dead eating fermented vegetables drink PLENTY of fermentation.) When you think of fermented, do you think of ROTTEN? We aren’t eating any rotten foods at my house. We could mentally replace that word with a much nicer one: cultured!

So, don’t eat fermented foods. Eat cultured ones!

If “bad” bacteria gets into your cultured foods and makes them “go bad,” you will know. They will taste bad and/or mold. I have almost never had this happen. Once it happened with a bottle of sauerkraut. Never with kefir or Rejuvelac.

My Rejuvelac ferments in a day. At CHI, they told me 3-5 days, but mine tastes plenty tart 24 hours after I blend the sprouts and water, and put it on the counter to grow (aka ferment, aka culture).

Here’s my new video showing this easy, inexpensive habit that has the potential to see you through the winter without viruses or infections!

Posted in: 12 Steps To Whole Food, Videos, Whole Food

22 thoughts on “Fermenting foods: it’s freaking me out!”

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  1. Anonymous says:

    You make rejuvelac different than I’ve read elsewhere including Ann Wigmores book. I’ve always added 3 times the amount of water to my jar of sprouted grain and let sit one to three days. Strain the rejuvelac and use the sprouts in things like raw crackers. Curious about your method of doing it. Also, how much water did you have in the gallon jars before you added the rejuvelac? Looking forward to trying this method. Thanks, Carol

  2. Anonymous says:

    Can I use something like brown rice or buckwheat for rejuvenac? I am highly allergic to quinoa and allergic to wheat.

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Kimberly, I would think so! Try it and let us know!

  3. Anonymous says:

    I love your blog! I will be attending your class in St. George in December and I can’t wait. This is probably a stupid question but is Rejuvelac a grain version of Kefr?

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Toni, not a grain version of kefir, just another probiotic food. Similar. See you in St. George soon!!

  4. Anonymous says:

    I guess if i read things completely my questions can be answered. Disregard my first comment. Sorry!

  5. Anonymous says:

    Thanks, Robyn! I am so excited to try this!! I have had ulcerative colitis for the past 7 years and take all sorts of prescription drugs for it, in addition to probiotics, etc. I am always looking for ways to get my gut healthy & add something great to my diet that is not in the form of another pill 🙂 Thank you so much for the information & the video of it.

  6. Anonymous says:

    How long does the Rejuvelac last in the fridge?

  7. Anonymous says:

    Thanks so much for this wonderful video. It was so helpful. Please make more. See ya–I’m off now to go make me some fine rejuvalak that I can guzzle later. 🙂

  8. Anonymous says:

    In my food storage I have hard red wheat. Will that be okay to use instead of the soft white wheat?

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Hard red wheat: I don’t know–at CHI they said to use soft white wheat berries but I will research this.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Robyn,

    Great video. Thanks. Just a quick question regarding fermented food. We just started making homemade Kefir (organic milk) with great results. How much do you recommend drinking per day? We are also using this as a base for our green smoothies. Also, when first consuming fermented foods is a “cleansing” period to be expected? Thanks!

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Randy, get at least a few Tablespoons of kefir, or lots more if you like it! When first consuming ANYTHING highly nutritious and/or highly cleansing, a detox reaction can occur! Especially green smoothies, or coconut oil.

  10. Anonymous says:

    I will definitely be trying this. I have been doing green smoothies for about a year, as well as trying some of your other ideas, and this sounds like something worth trying. Thanks for all your help in helping me turn my health around.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Robyn, is this ok for gluten free people? I’ve read the Ann Wigmore book and I believe that she says it is. Can you verify that?

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Leslie, use QUINOA if you’re gluten free!

  12. Anonymous says:

    Too easy! I just went to the kitchen to get the quinoa soaking. Thanks, Robyn, for doing the footwork and making healthy living simple. My husband *loves* kombucha fermented drinks, but I had never thought that I might replicate them at home – I’m excited to add Rejuvelac to our green smoothies!

  13. Anonymous says:

    I was really excited to try this from your post from CHI. I followed all the steps and I am not sure what I did wrong but after 3 days I took the mesh cover off the bowl I had the quinoa in and it had fuzzy mold all around the ring of the bowl. I wasn’t sure if it was supposed to do that but I couldn’t even get my self to try it. I don’t know if I should only leave it out for 1 or 2 days like you said in this post or if you have any other suggestions for not having it mold?

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Emily, okay, don’t give up. Where you live it was too warm, probably, to do 3 days. Do ONE day and if it’s tart, cover it and put it in the fridge! Let me know how that goes for you.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Thank you for this post. My friend and I were just talking about pro biotic foods and healing the gut. I will definitely try this. Thanks.

  15. Anonymous says:

    I appreciated the Rejuvelac demo. I tried and have implemented many of Sally Fallon’s concepts before finding your website, but have trouble with kefir (milk & water both). I will be trying Rejuvelac soon.

    Question about storage of your sauerkraut. I have always made smaller batches and stored them in the refrigerator after fermentation is complete. This year I grew many cabbages and would like to store several 2-quart jars, but don’t have enough refrigerator space. If I pack the sauerkraut to the top tightly and use the plastic screw-on lids for the 2-quart jars, can it can be stored in a basement (I live in Utah) food storage room that is fairly dark and cool in Spring/Summer or cold in Fall/Winter)? Or would a colder temperature be required for storage?

    Thanks for all you do! I appreciate that you’ve taken the best of so many of the programs/methods I have been trying over the past 10-15 years (pH Miracle, GAPS/SCD, Nourishing Traditions, Victoria Butenko & Ann Wigmore, etc.) and created an approach that works better for me. I especially appreciate that it helps me implement the Word of Wisdom. Thanks again. –Michelle Swim

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      MIchelle, fellow WofW fan! I store my sauerkraut in my concrete basement “cold storage” and it does great there! Then I put it in the fridge after I open a jar.

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