What happened when my root-canal teeth were pulled

Can you stand one more update related to traditional dentistry versus holistic (biological) practices? It’s the last chapter in the story I told you in August.

When I had my two root-canal teeth extracted, I paid a few hundred dollars for an analysis of what bacteria were found in them. I just got my results back from the lab in Colorado.

My biological dentist told me BOTH my root-canal teeth he pulled were failing. Since then, I’ve talked to half a dozen other dentists and people who have extensive experience with root canals.

You would think that, with all the things I do right, I would have better luck than that. I confess to being more than a little disappointed that a bone graft and so much dental work would be required, notwithstanding my earlier years of eating lots of candy, ice cream, and diet soda.

But did you know that the EXPECTED time that a root canal lasts is a max of 10 years? That’s right–-endodontists KNOW that their procedure has a very limited life. My brother Dave was in an ATV accident 10 years ago, where his teeth planted in the steering wheel and killed ten of them. He had root canals on all, and guess what.

Yep, they’re all failing.

Not that those pleomorphic organisms trapped in an anaerobic environment, in a dead organ, are really contained during that 10 years anyway. They’re not! “Failing” just means that there are visible, discernible signs of rampant infection and decay. (Obviously it didn’t get that way overnight!)

In my case, the signs were mild tooth sensitivity, and a blister on the gums covering the tooth. A raging, itchy rash on my trunk and arms that came and went for 2.5 months, until I realized it was related to my teeth.

Have you ever thought about the fact that the tooth is an organ? The biological dentist knows this. It is part of an interconnected meridian in the body. When it dies—or is injured and we kill it dead and leave it there—we are truly fossilizing a dead organism in our living mouth. And we think this won’t cause problems!

So, my sample came back saying that 10 bacteria were detected in the tooth sample. None of them were in the “active” concentration, where the microorganism is alive and well and not being effectively attacked by my immune system.

But two were in the “bright” concentration, which means “heavy concentration of the microorganism.”

They were:

Campylobacter rectus
Prevotella melaninogenica

I’m not panicking about this. Fact is, everybody has candida, everybody has cancer, most people probably have strep and even MRSA micro-organisms too. Everybody has many yeasts, molds, fungi, viruses, bacteria, and the toxic waste byproducts of those critters, in our blood and gut and organs.

Believe it or not, candida can actually have valid functions in the human body. In proportion, in tiny amounts in a teeming, healthy ecosystem, it’s not a problem.

The problem is when those baddies get out of hand. When the good guys in the body, like macrophages and healthy micro-organisms, are overcome (by antibiotics! GMO-frankenfoods! Sugar feeding yeast and fungus!) and the baddies get out of control.

Killing tissues / organs such as your teeth, then trapping the bacteria in the teeth, deprived of oxygen, makes the baddies become super-psychos. That’s a gross oversimplification, but a google search on those two bacteria reveal that my own two breeds of baddies cause heart attacks, impaired immune response, and…..genital tract infections!


It’s weird to be missing two teeth. But I’m glad the super-psychos are gone.

The dentist had offered me an antibiotic the day of my surgery, since he knows the baddies are now out, and running around. I said no thanks, that I wanted to help my body manage it. And it did. Every time I think of this, I send a gratitude message inward, thanking my body for heroic immune function during a rough patch!


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  1. Hello Daniel,
    Who did you go to to have your failed root canal extracted? Your oral surgeon must have done a good job, as you don’t have problems after extraction.

    1. I don’t think how good the surgeon is has that much to do with whether they have problems, post-extraction. it’s likely more a function of the health of the patient, going into surgery, and whether they did some preventative measures like PRF and ozone.

  2. Can you tell me what implants are considered safe? I can’t imagine living with removable teeth for the rest of my life!

    1. Susan, Robyn teaches that zirconium implants are much better/safer than those made from titanium.

    1. Susan, are you asking Robyn Openshaw if she had a bone graft? She in fact did for both of her root canal extractions.

  3. Can you recommend supplements to help recover from extraction faster? And who did your implants? And where did you send your teeth to be looked at?

  4. I had root canals pulled out after the topaz test showing they were bad. My dentist told me my life would change & it did so I could tune into past & present -remember better & intuit- put two & two together- better problem solver. Root canal should never be put in mouth in first place. They are too toxic & wreck much havoc in different ways for each one who has one or more.

  5. I have a question. 2 years ago I had 3 infected root canal teeth pulled. They had probably been infected for 20 years! I have been feeling run down and sick. I had a work up of my gut health recently and found that I have high levels of Euryarchaeota Phylum in my GI. This is a bacteria commonly found in root canals. My question is this.can the bacteria from my root canals be living in my intestines long after I remove to RC teeth and causing problems? Thanks

    1. Of course, Dr. Hal Huggins did DNA testings of bacteria in infected root canal and kidneys back in 90’s and what he found is that the same bacteria that is in the tooth is also in kidney causing disease. And it could be any organ because it spreads trough bloodstream

  6. I just had two root canal teeth removed. The one on the lower jaw has sharp, hard fragments like part of the root canal wasn’t removed. Or it may be bone fragments. But, it is not moving or working its way out. Should whatever that is be removed by the oral surgeon who performed the surgery. Please respond soon. Thank y ou.

    1. Hi Faye, I’m sorry to hear you have two root canal failings! How sad! It does sound like something is amiss, not quite right. You should have tender gum left and no sharp edges. I’d definitely call the oral surgeon right back, asap and let them know what you’re experiencing!

    1. Hi Masha, after a while of allowing my gums to heal plus bone grafts, I had both titanium and zirconium implant work done and I’m doing great!

  7. Right after my root canal I had 2 incidents where I checked myself out for a uti and there was nothing, just the symptoms. Both times I landed in ER with kidney infections. I have had an itchy rash! It comes and goes on the right side of my trunk. The root canal is 3 years old now and I have also had a huge access in my Tongue. Th medical profession puts me on antibiotics every time. I am going to get it pulled by my dentist this week. Thinking biological but it is not covered under my health insurance and is $1800.00. I would have 100% coverage through my regular dentist. Any suggestion?

    1. Shop around. You can get it done by a good biological oral surgeon for less. I just had 3 extractions (2 root canals and a primary tooth), and it cost $875.

  8. Hello I looked this up and read what you wrote trying to find out if the tooth that I needed a root canal on that got pulled instead is not fully fixed. It’s been more then two days ago that I got it pulled and I’ve had pain and pulsating and it’s not dry socket I looked it up . Please help

    1. A tooth extraction takes time to heal. You may have a very deep infection. Perhaps a call back to your dentist to discuss your continuing symptoms would be a good idea.

  9. i am curious if my root canal is the cause or contributing to the mysterious pain in my neck, shoulders, back, arm and wrists. the pain seems to move to different locations and is totally impacting the quality of may life. have tried acupuncture, chiropractic, physical therapy, mediation, massage, cortisone injection…Going broke with no lasting relief. Just dawned on me that it could be the tooth. I also have a lot of tightness in my jaw.
    only 54 and was super healthy at 50. last 4 years have been stressful and complicated. Have navigated a lot of the mental stuff successfully but the physical body is still suffering. Frustrating and depressing.

    1. Hello, I just recently had a tooth pulled that had been giving me grief on and off for the last say 3 years. Within 24 hrs of the tooth being removed I almost feel like a new person. I feel like a fog has lifted from my brain. I am sharper, have more energy and generally feel pretty great! I did some google search and found this site with these stories and now I am convinced 100% that having bad, infected, root canal, mercury filled teeth are poisoning our bodies and making us miserable! If I were you I’d book an appointment TODAY and get that tooth removed!


      1. I want to get my root canal tooth extracted. I’m not sure where to go, to find an experienced Dr. I live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. Can anyone help me.)

      2. I had the same experience. I just had 3 teeth extracted, 2 root canals and an infected primary tooth, and I felt much better and clearer right away. Not placebo, since I wasn’t expecting it! No pain beyond mild discomfort either.

        1. Sophia, glad you are experiencing a relief; though extractions temporarily leave us without teeth but ridding of the failed root canals/infections is a gift to your body. Hope you have a great biological dentist for the next portion of work, should you choose partials or implants either one.

          1. No, I can’t afford any replacements. It affects my bite on one side, but it’s not too bad and I’m getting used to it. Thanks.

    2. I went through this same exact thing. I had an old root canal that I suspected of all my pain and for roughly a year I had dentists say it was a health problem and my doctor say it was a dental problem. I decided to hv the tooth pulled and though the symptoms are better. They are not gone. An oral surgeon told me I had bone loss caused from it. I use heat on my neck and jaw which relieves some of the pain. It does seem to come and go. But when the pain is there it generates down my shoulder and chest. I do believe its caused from the old root canal.

      1. Ya I too had a root canal tooth and got it extracted three days ago and I’m in alot of pain and it goes down my neck and to my ear and temple and causes migrains and stomach pain

    3. I have just had a root canal taken out,although I have dry socket which is agony I have noticed improvements in my health.Pain in the neck,shoulders,arMs that I have had for 2 years has gone,thinking about things that’s when I had the root canal.May be pure coincidence but I think it’s linked

      1. Janet, I hope your health has steadily been improving and you’re seeing even more positive changes since your root canal tooth extraction. 🙂

    4. Hello. I had a root canal done in 2015 and have an appointment to have the tooth pulled in two weeks. A month after the RC, I had arthritis, TMJ, pain, rash on the back of my thigh and still suffering from hair loss. It’s a crime what these dentist do to us knowing the procedure is deadly. I have found a bio dentist. Please wish me luck with my hair growth. I am a retired hairstylist of 30 years and would never imagine 40% of my hair would be gone before my 50th Birthday.

      1. Hi, I hope you’re doing well since your tooth extraction and seeing much improved health, hopefully reversals of all the symptoms that set in immediately following your root canal in 2015! How’s your hair?

    5. I just had #18 and 19 removed both were fails RC teeth. I had terrible pain in neck, shoulder, back and chest for 6 months. Tried most of all you tried. No pain since having those teeth removed.

  10. Don’t remove teeth unless absolutely necessary if it needs to be extracted go to an oral surgeon .if you have a root canal see if u can get retreatment or an apicoectomy first if infected antibiotics are good to prevent infection from spreading but they gotta get infection out so always get second opinions and if you don’t have much money go to dental clinics or hospitals which have dentist in training they are guided by supervision I mean be proactive some dentist just want what’s in your pocket find one that cares for you and giving you the best treatment options

  11. As a passionate endodontist I must say that your viewpoint is very naïve. Spreading your opinion like this is harmful to people who want to and should keep their natural teeth. There are too many missing details in your “story “to even make any assumptions on my behalf. I wish you had better dental treatment and advice.

    1. Dr. Cohen,
      I had a root canal on a tooth with a deep cavity and curved roots on July 31, 2017. No infection present. I had cataract surgery on June 28, 2017. I’ve been suffering from migraines since July 6, 2017. I had a normal ct scan of my brain/head w/ and w/o contrast, as well as normal bloodwork. My vision is great but endo swears it’s not my tooth causing my 24/7 migraine. My body swears it is my tooth and wants it removed. I am 42 years old as of yesterday. Do you have any wise advice before I pull my tooth? I want my life back. I’ve seen a chiropractor twice also, because I developed a pinched nerve in my neck on July 4, 2017. He has helped tremendously to relieve the pinched nerve pain but it hasn’t helped my migraine.

    2. Dr Cohen I had a root canal tooth extracted about three days or so ago and I have pain in my ear and neck and. Jaw line and a bad migraine that comes and goes. I don’t know what is going on but my stomach hurts since I got it removed and is swollen my mouth feels like it’s got a infection do you think it’s possible that maybe a peice of nerve stayed in there or something ?

    3. I had my RC tooth extracted last week after 2 abcesses and now a third. I’ve spent thousands on “TMJ” that was never there to begin with and a rash on my face for two years that is completely gone just two Dayan after the extraction. I also landed a Pacemaker for unknown reasons. It’s been infected repeatedly since the first root canal at age 14 and I’m now 52. The tissue is dead. I’m a nurse and there’s no other procedure where dead tissue is ok to leave in the body and leaving dead tissue isn’t necessary to preserve chewing or aesthetics especially when there are health risks now being reported widespread by real victims of the RC practice. These reports and evidence of the bacteria, fungi, and parasites found in RC is NOT naive and it is irresponsible of you to make that statement to true patients that have suffered. The RC practice is a known money maker and even if people don’t feel pain or associate other symptoms, MOST of the RC extractions are proving infected from the dead tissue itself and NOT from other bacteria normally found in the mouth. Spreading denial of what’s actually occurring with RC as an endodontist is whats harmful not the victim reporting his or her experience and warning others to be a strong health advocate for themselves.

  12. I have a root canal on Molar teeth two years ago with a gold crown. It was done due to crack/chip in teeth making it weak to withstand on its own. No issue with the teeth at the time of root canal and crowning.

    But, a week before, I started getting mild pain on this teeth on biting and after couple of days got a big swelling around the gum (infection) and fever for overnight. Using home treatment, I got over the infection in 2-3days and thinking to visit the doctor. Before going, I want to understand options. My theory is, teeth might have cracked, followed with infection. But, then I feel it might be just infection no crack, because I stay high on hygiene to have infection two days after crack.

    My question to experience experts are if I get the tooth extracted, does it fixes the issues (generally) or root canal things should be removed too ( whatever is filled in the root tunnels)?

    1. Over last few days I found that my gum swelling and biting pain was not due to Root Canal. It was some kind of infected which affected my multiple area one by one. Now gum is getting over and no need to extract root canal teeth. It was false flag.

      1. Did the dentist tell you to extract your root canal? It was recommended I have an extraction – due to “failed root canal” causing bone loss. Have not done it yet. Doing research – finding my options. Your comments was interesting because you were going to extract your root canal — but later found out unnecessary.

    2. Nothing mine has taken four months and the dentist wont see me for 2 more months ( maybe longer I can feel the empty space) before I can get something to replace..

  13. I had a root canal extraction as I had throbing pain for months and had failed..I had it removed by an oral surgeon and was in pain for several days after the extraction..I did take the amoxicillin and ibuprofen given to me after the surgery but was still in excruciating pain about a week later..I had a dry socket which is just a hole with no blood clot to protect the site therefore exposing the tissue and bone and got infected..I resulted to an old remedy given to me by my wife..I was desperate and was going to try anything..it is called CLOVE OIL ..what a miracle of a product, it numbed the tissues in the extraction area and I feel killed the infection. I was OK an hour after applying it with a qtip..believe me if u have a dry socket and it hursts clove oil is the way to go..

  14. All implants are toxic, if you have any health problems do not get them. Zirconia has toxic heavy metals. Do lots of research! A bridge with no metals from a lab and dentist you trust or a partial denture is the only way to go imo. I felt great after getting my root canals pulled! I had 2 teeth pulled in 3 sessions/appointments. I experienced the greatest healing after the last ones were pulled. It is best to get them done all at once. Otherwise you must get them all done within 30 days for best results, no longer then 6 months or the results are not so great according to Huggins. And the work must not on the 7 day mark as the body has a 7 day healing cycle. So if you get the work done on Monday, then the next appointment should be done on any other day of the week and so forth. Also get an ozone machine and a shower water pic for best cleaning results. Good luck everyone! 🙂 Your health is your greatest wealth! You will quickly get used to your new mouth and can start focusing back on what is most important in your life! 🙂

    1. I went to a holistic dentist by the name of Dr. Thomas (Tom) Gent of Sola Dental in Austin, TX. I’ve always had troubled teeth and he talked me out of most of them, especially the root-canaled ones. Guess what? I didn’t feel any better afterwards, and because he failed so miserably at extractions and implants, I ended up with holes all over my jaw and was disfigured and unable to chew for 18 months. He has been under investigation for over a year with the state dental board and we’re into a lawsuit for my injuries. This guy was doing shady things with controlled substance prescriptions, recommending unnecessary procedures, and botching procedures…the list goes on. Just because someone is holistic doesn’t mean they’re a better provider, or a even a good person. He lied and even altered dental records to cover his butt. Once you pull teeth, you end up with major bone loss. A bridge is NOT the answer after that…your jaw will just start to crumble and your teeth will move over time. Do you want to look like an old person? That’s what I looked like after Gent took most of my teeth and I had to wait for reconstructive surgeries. Once you lose teeth, it’s game over. I would give anything to have my root-canaled teeth back. I had NO problems with them…no pain, no sensitivity, no infection. Gent took them for the money. Creep.

      1. We like to hear more about your story. We live in Austin. Doing research on biological dentist – as they pride themselves as doing a better/cleaner work compare to regular dentists.
        Current situation: regular dentist said that a failed root canal – causing bone loss – was told to extract the tooth.

        1. I highly recommend the dentist’s at Nunnally, Freeman, and Owens in Marble Falls, about 45 minutes away from Austin. I have had 2 teeth extracted by Dr. Owens and wouldn’t go anywhere else than there for tooth extraction. Dr. Nunn ally has a very good protocol that they follow for tooth extraction, and they are biological dentist’s. You should look at his videos on YouTube or their website.

          That being said I had 1 tooth extracted two years ago, and the other one just yesterday, primarily because I was worried they were contributing to major systemic illness that I am dealing with. I am not sure yet if this most recent tooth extraction will help my health or not. Since it wasn’t causing pain, I will kick myself if my health doesn’t benefit from taking it out. If you know you need a tooth removed though, I would definitely go to them.

          They pack the extraction site with your own platlettes to help with healing. They cut the periodontal ligament to promote bone growth. They use IV vitamin C, and ozone therapy. My previous tooth extraction healed very well.

          1. I am not having any major issues with my “failed root canal.” In reading some experiences about extracting a failed root canal is worrisome. I just keep the failed root canal – (it was brought to my attention during annual check -up – gray area on x-ray) clean and don’t chew on it. I am concern about extracting it – as I am afraid that will lead to other problems.

  15. Thank you for sharing this!! I like you:)
    I have/had 2 failed root canals. One i had extracted, the other im supposed to have extracted on the 6th but they are telling me i HAVE to (instead of having a choice to say no) have bone graft which is 500 bucks out of pocket or she wont do an extraction.
    I think its retarded, so im going to tell her that she can and will extract it and no bone graft or im going to call the police department and claim im a hostage who is in the process of being robbed lol.
    I serioisly just might do it and hope i make the news
    But what struck me was the itchy rash you had on your trunk. I started getting strange rashes or what i dont know and cant put my finger on a term so i call them puffy itchy raised welts kind of like how a mosquito or flea bite looks when there is an allergic reaction.
    They would appear at random and never really in the same spot and it would vanish just as fast as it appeared.
    Weird!! I thought i was crazy, then i thought i had some kind of sepsis, then i ultimately ended up in the hospital ER with pylonephritis a kidney infection. Thats when i learned the hard way and gave up being a rebel and started to drinl water. A lot of water. All the time.

    1. I have that itchy rash! It comes and goes on the right side of my trunk. Right after my root canal I had 2 incidents where I checked myself out for a uti and there was nothing, just the symptoms. Both times I landed in ER with kidney infections. I am going to get it pulled by my dentist this week. Thinking biological but it is not covered under my health insurance and is $1800.00. I would have 100% coverage through my regular dentist.

  16. Madonna,

    Empathize with you. Age 63, about HALF my teeth are root canaled/crowned. All my chewing molars. Now at least one is starting to fail and has abscess.
    Plus top fronts are root canaled. K’ve had terrible problems. Did NOT have holistic dentistry sadly for me.

    Why do they need to come out? Are they infected ?
    What is your plan? Good luck finding a holistic dentkst in Ilwa! Have you consulted the Holistic Dental Association?

  17. I am having my root canal tooth pulled in Boulder and I would love to send it to the lab to determine what kind of infection it carries. Can you tell me the lab in Colorado, that does this

    1. Hi Linda Warner ~ I’m also in Boulder and ready to pull an infected root canal tooth. Curious if you’ve done yours already, and if so, what dentist did you do it with? How did you feel ~ and heal afterwards? Any updates or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I’m so concerned that getting this procedure done will not resolve the infection properly. Thank you!

      1. I have to have an ozld, bad root canal removed. Is it necessary or required to have an oral surgeon do it or an ordinary dentist? I have an appt with both & have to cancel one. Are dentists ok to remove
        a root canal molor?

  18. Thank you so much for this article! I was debating if I needed anti-biotics after root canals being removed, glad to hear someone not using them. I also am feeling weird, not well, while at the same time I have used my inhaler less than 1/4 the amount as normal since the removal 4 days ago. Plus when I walk, my breathing is noticeably different, better, but it’s hard to pinpoint how exactly, less need for inhaler and I think it’s more stable. The other thing is I feel a little on edge and exhausted. I was hoping to feel really good right away after the removal so I was looking for someone else’s experience. Thank you again!

    1. I think they gave me one antibiotic pill right after, then I just rinsed with salt water. Didn’t need any pain meds and it healed very quickly.

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