Can Green Smoothies “DEVASTATE” Your Health?
Sarah the Healthy Home Economist online recently posted an article about how green smoothies can “DEVASTATE” your health. The content was so unsubstantiated that at first I refused to respond to it. But Amanda said, “She has a big audience and people are freaking out about it.”
Sarah cites the oxalates phenomenon, wherein a natural compound (oxalates) occasionally bind to calcium to cause kidney stones. (She infers, without citing evidence, that other more serious health consequences could also be possible.) Greens have oxalic acid in them. Sarah makes several logic leaps and concludes that no one should be drinking green smoothies.
I’m not going to promote her blog article by pointing to it here. She rates her content for how controversial it is. Controversy generates more readers, I guess. It also has the potential to do harm, if what you’re saying is (a) undocumented, (b) contrary to hundreds of studies about the benefits of greens, and (c) featuring a bizarre and untenable conclusion.
Just because someone posts stuff on the internet does not automatically endow that person with credibility. Her argument locks in on a detail --- that greens are high in oxalic acid --- and misses the larger picture.
Only one source is listed at the end of her article and none are quoted or referenced. The source is a PhD’s book on oxalates and autism and “chronic disorders,” but she never quotes the author or anyone or anything else, so I’m not sure how many of her claims came from this one guy, or what.
I don’t bet the farm on one book or one source. There are quite a few other sources that show that some of the anti-nutrients in our most nutrition-dense foods, actually work together synergistically for our health, rather than against it. I’ve done quite a few blog series on anti-nutrients such as oxalates, goitrogens, purines, and phytates, concluding that none of the anti-nutrients should generally cause people to avoid foods containing them.
Note that at the end of the article, Sarah says to eat greens, if you like them, but not very much. Always cook them, she says, and eat them with butter.
Wow! Really?
Let me quote Dr. Norman Walker in his book Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices: What’s Missing in Your Body?
“Spinach should never be eaten when cooked unless we are particularly anxious to accumulate oxalic acid crystals in our kidneys with the consequent pain and kidney trouble. When spinach is cooked or canned, the oxalic acid atoms become inorganic as a result of excessive heat and may form oxalic acid crystals in the kidneys.
“When the food is raw, whether whole or in the form of juice, every atom in such food is vital ORGANIC and is replete with enzymes. Therefore, the oxalic acid in our raw vegetables and their juices is organic, and as such is not only beneficial but essential for the physiological functions of the body.
“The oxalic acid in cooked and processed foods, however, is definitely dead, or INORGANIC, and as such is both pernicious and destructive. Oxalic acid readily combines with calcium. If these are both organic, the result is a beneficial constructive combination, as the former helps the digestive assimilation of the latter, at the same time stimulating the peristaltic functions in the body.
“When the oxalic acid has become INORGANIC by cooking or processing the foods that contain it, then this acid forms an interlocking compound with the calcium, even combining with the calcium in other foods eaten during the same meal, destroying the nourishing value of both. This results in such a serious deficiency of calcium that it has been known to cause decomposition of the bones.”
So according to Dr. Walker, what Sarah is telling her readers to do is really terrible advice.
One of my favorite sources is George Mateljan, because his staff, and his book The World’s Healthiest Foods, review and quote a tremendous amount of empirical data before making claims. Each section contains an extensive bibliography, and the conclusions are scientific and objective.
He says that a review of the peer-reviewed research reveals that the ability of oxalates to lower calcium absorption is small and does not outweigh the ability of those foods to contribute significant calcium to the diet, since spinach is rich in calcium.
So, one of the primary recommendations of most the sources I’ve read, to avoid stones forming in the body, is to get plenty of calcium from plant sources.
So, the high calcium content in spinach may actually inhibit the formation of stones, even though spinach is also high in oxalates. This is at least some logic or evidence, then, underpinning my theory that there are far more synergies than we currently know about in whole, raw plant foods leading to their clear, incontrovertible place (based on volumes of published research) as the necessary mainstay in our diet. We know that people the world over who eat mostly whole, raw foods simply don’t get sick. We don’t always know WHY.
So screaming that the sky is falling about one compound---in an entire class of our most nutritious foods---seems not only unwise, but even irresponsible, if you have an audience and give nutrition advice.
The jury is still out on so many of the issues Sarah the Healthy Home Economist takes strong, unilateral stands on. For instance, what really causes oxalic acid buildup. (She quotes ZERO evidence that greens do.) Whether greens are high in oxalates are only ONE issue related to whether they cause kidney stones. What if they also have dozens of other nutrient compounds, and fiber, that PREVENT stones from forming? A relevant example would be Mateljan’s review of the published, peer-reviewed literature on spinach, oxalates, and calcium as mentioned earlier.
After I investigated this issue, I wrote this in Chapter 1 of 12 Steps to Whole Foods:
“The research is not clear that restricting foods such as spinach helps prevent stones in those who have previously had them. Many researchers believe that dietary restriction cannot reduce risk of stone formation. In fact, some foods that were assumed to increase stone formation because of oxalate content (like black tea) have appeared in more recent research to have a preventative effect.
“Further, cooking has a small impact (about 10%) on the oxalate content of foods, with no statistically significant lowering of oxalates following blanching or boiling of greens. It appears that the nutritional advantages of eating raw greens continue to far outweigh any benefit of cooking them.”
And yet, with slim evidence, if any, Sarah says green smoothies can “devastate” your health and advises at the end of the article, “Skip the Green Smoothies!”
She undertakes no discussion of the true baddies that cause kidney stones:
Soft drinks
Sugar
Animal proteins
Salty foods (or any refined salt)
Oxalates in spinach (also strawberries, soy, and many other foods) can be difficult to digest for a tiny percentage of the population who are suffering from a few very rare disorders (absorptive hypercalciuria type II, enteric hyperoxaluria, primary hyperoxaluria). But let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here. If you don’t have these disorders, and 99+% of those reading this don’t, greens are not just good food---they are powerful good medicine!
Leafy greens are the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, and cooking them as Sarah instructs kills 100% of their enzymes, and most of their vitamins and minerals, too.
Sarah the Healthy Home Economist uses hyperbolic words to terrify people that eating nutrient dense foods could kill them, but she cites no research whatsoever. She implies that cases of painful sex are on the rise (where does that data come from? Is there any data?) and that oxalates are a “possible culprit.”
There are no references to check, and the bigger issue to me is, if people develop kidney stones, or crystalline deposits in other parts of the body, are greens the real culprit? How would you isolate that factor? Show me the study that did.
It’s terribly unlikely that greens are why we have lots of kidney stones, since almost nobody in America eats very much green food.
And in addition to thousands of testimonials we’ve received, my own research (175 subjects) shows massive health benefits to the green smoothie habit, as published in my bestselling book, The Green Smoothies Diet. In that research, not one person reported kidney stones as a side effect of starting the daily green-drink habit. And yes, we asked.
Nutritionally, crystalline deposits are likely caused by highly acidic foods, especially salt, and not drinking lots of water.
So let’s minimize or eliminate the baddies, listed above. Let’s eat more of the foods that have been linked by hundreds of studies world-wide, to ideal weight and minimized disease risk.
(Dr. Joel Fuhrman does this best, in Eat to Live, quoting literally hundreds of published studies showing the benefits of eating plant foods. This is highly recommended reading.)
Let’s don’t kill greens with cooking, and slather butter on them.
If you’re worried about oxalates, let’s not “throw the baby out with the bathwater,” because people who don’t metabolize that anti-nutrient well need the nutrition in the leafy greens as much as anyone, if not more. Instead:
Let’s rotate greens, use a wide variety in our green drinks---not just spinach. Amanda says a friend of hers had oxalate issues and one took a calcium-magnesium supplement and the pain went away. Several experts I have read suggest getting more calcium from plant sources.
And, eat some good fats with your green smoothie, like avocado or coconut oil or flax oil, to increase calcium absorption. One of my favorite lunches is a quart of green smoothie, with some homemade guacamole and “corn chips” (organic corn tortillas, quartered with a pizza cutter and broiled on both sides, no oil or salt needed).
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Joi,
I have had a similar reaction when eating raw celery and carrots (when they aren’t organic or from my backyard) I blame the pesticides. Burning and itchy throat, fat lip…stuff like that. Washing them better has sometimes decreased the reaction, cooking them always. Organic fixes it. Strawberries and green apples have done similar to my gums – hurting effect, discomfort. Consider that pesticide ladden things might be at fault.
Just a possibility to consider.
— Sam
thought I didn’t read through all the comments, this is responding to Sam responding to Joi:
My son has a sensitivity to raw apples, cherries, peaches, etc. (swollen/itchy mouth, throat). Also, different members of the extended family have others (apples, carrots, etc.), along with his ortho. Online I’ve read of correlations between certain trees/grassses and foods such as this article:
https://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2007/12/11/a-pesky-allergy-to-fruit-and-vegetables
I’m sensitive to different grass pollens, etc., but no correlation to any foods. It may be pesticides on the foods, but maybe not. It’s so amazing to me how our bodies are all so different.
Sarah linked to her article again on her facebook page today. Drives me crazy how many people just follow without doing any research or thinking of their own. It’s sad how they are willing to stop with green smoothies after reading one opinion. Green smoothies are so great it, it’s such a bummer to hear of people stopping them.
Hi Robyn,
I have read all your blogs on oxalates and the effects when cooked and not consumed raw.
I love my green drinks but can too much of it be bad. I mean is there an amount we should not consume. Can we over load our kidneys with minerals that turn into calcium even though it is all coming in raw form.
I usually make my drinks with Chard, Collard Green, Spinach, Broccoli & a Berry. I add a squeezed orange to it and drink down.
I buy about a normal grocery size serving for each of the items and consume all this in blended form in 3-4 days.
I was drinking it in a week now due to the flu season I am consuming them in 3-4 days.
So can that be too much. How much is too much. One thing I realized i need a variety of drinks and not just the same cause that has been my drink for the last year almost.
Thanks for your response. Appreciate your knowledge as always
Michael, I suppose you COULD overload yourself with minerals, depending on other factors like health problems / weaknesses, and other toxic things you are consuming combining with minerals. However, that would be rare. You can go on extended green-smoothie detoxes as long as you’re getting good fats with your green smoothies, and a good VARIETY in your greens and fruits.
Oxalates, according to raw foodist Victoria Boutenko, accumulate if you eat the same green every day. You must vary the greens and you’ll have no problem with them whatsoever. Also only leafy greens should be used with fruits that contain soluble fibers, such as: bananas, berries, pears, mango and some others (to avoid unpleasant taste and indigestion). Some veggies, such as carrots, cabbage, onions, soy, beans and others contain sugars that are hard to digest, which give you gas. They should be steamed (beans should be soaked overnihgt) to minimize that effect..
I’m drinking smoothies every once in awhile now. Every time I do it, I wish I would do it more often – that’s how good I feel.
So in conclusion: vegies are more than capable of making you sick, if used wrong. But they are also the best medicine and fuel for the body if used properly.
Diana, Victoria does say this, but she doesn’t offer any evidence. For the concept itself, nor for the idea that rotating greens obviates the problem.
Diana, Victoria does say that, but she offers no evidence for either the oxalate buildup or the idea that rotating greens obviates that problem. I would like to see the evidence.
I think there may be too many people out there who make blanket statements about what’s good for EVERYone. Please! We are individuals, all different and distinct. Not many single rules apply to each and every one of us! I have been helped enormously by a low oxalates diet, but I don’t ever try to tell anyone it is necessary for them also! The same applies to green smoothies or anything else. It’s a bit like religion… we think we are on to a good thing, then try to foist it on everyone else as a ‘must do’. Why not put your ideas out there, and say “try it – it works for me, it might help you.” I have had great relief from recurring thrush, vulvodynia, cystitis, fibromyalgia, burning mouth and throat, infections, foggy brain, low energy levels and more – all of which have dogged me for many, many years (I am 61). I had always eaten and enjoyed lots of greens and fresh vegies, whole grain wheat and rice, soy… all the things I thought were healthy for everyone. They were, in fact, causing my problems, all being high in oxalates. It was a shock at first, but it has been a lesson in the ‘uniqueness of the individual’ to me. I had to rethink my whole framework of what ‘health’ is! There are still quite a range of fresh fruit and veg I can eat (including some greens!), so I’m not going to die of bloat or lazy bowel!
So please – back off the harsh generalities and let us explore health as it meets each one of us in our own situations!
Thank you for this article! I was appalled at Sarah’s article when coming across it randomly..
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn,author of “How to Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease” makes the following statement:
Smoothies – How about smoothies? I love them!
Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension.
https://www.heartattackproof.com/qanda.htm
I also love smoothies and, although I have found Dr. Esselstyn’s diet super helpful, I was puzzled by the above. Thoughts?
Ralph, Dr. Esselstyn has made a great impact on the world and I usually agree with him. But how is the sugar stripped from the fruit? Is he referring to JUICE? Very different from the green smoothie I refer to. Fiber is still in the smoothie, and very frankly the primates and those with undamaged strong jaws break their food down to a very creamy consistency before they swallow……so, again, this doesn’t make sense to me. I haven’t seen him quote any actual evidence of this. How can getting 10-15 servings of raw greens and fruit be inflammation-causing? Show me the data and I’ll consider it. A quote is just….a quote. 🙂
Robyn
The idea that green smoothies – with banana’s, fresh fruit, spinach, greens, etc. can do any harm to you is absolute ignorant rubbish. If you grew all of that stuff on a farm and that’s all you had to eat – you’d be lean, healthy, full of energy, and live to be 100. Your stomach is a blender. So make all the smoothies you want, drink them, and let all the dumpy, out-of-shape, malnourished, ignorant opinionators who wish they were you blow their smoke.
I also think the good Doctor has mistaken juicing for green smoothie blending. How could anything enjoyed raw from such healthy ingredients ever be considered bad for you.
I never put greens in my smoothies, I just have fruit smoothies daily as well as a salad that has a host of different vegetables.. I was one that did not do well adding greens to my smoothies, in fact they made me ill..
Victoria’s article on why we should rotate our greens https://greensmoothiesblog.com/green-smoothie-rotate/ and her response to the article “How Green Smoothies can devastate your health”, with lots of scientific research https://greensmoothiesblog.com/oxalic-acid-and-green-smoothies/
Go girls!
I stumbled onto Sarah the Healthy Home Economist site yesterday and was stressed to the max after reading her article you’re referencing. I give my boys green smoothies daily and I was freaking out about the spinach issue. Thank you a million times over for putting my mind at ease by addressing the specific issue. Also, thank you for all the other greens you suggest because I really was at a loss of what I should be using besides kale and spinach. Seriously, I can’t thank you enough. I will sleep so much better tonight (and many more nights to come).
Trimble, search on my site about this. It’s an ill-considered opinion not worth your time, but find my writing on it. GSG is searchable.
Thank you!
I just want to say something if I can. People freak out all the time on the oxalate issue so hopefully I can explain what I have researched and experienced. A normal healthy person can perfectly digest oxalate. In fact, we have a specific bacteria in our gut called oxalabacter formigenes, look this up I encourage you to do your own research. But these bacteria are fragile and anaerobic so once we lose them they are near impossible to get back and there is no supplement with them for us to take. Antibiotics and poor diet/stress weaken the immune system. This is the killing off bacteria that lives in our gut. The bacteria gets low and there is a hole that forms called leaky gut syndrome. Oxalates are now able to pass through the GI tract and leak into the body. The body is forced to store them and try to pee the excess out but there is too much. So the key is to heal the gut and go on a low oxalate diet. We might never get back the oxalabacter formigenes but by increasing the other bacteria strains we can from fermenting foods and cutting out simple sugars we can very well have a chance to fix the underlying condition 🙂 but it takes a very long time
And it is not just greens that contain high levels of oxalates. Nuts, seeds, potatoes, and chocolate are a few foods that have high oxalate and are not greens.
Solid article! My fiance and I are vegans for ethical reasons, and I was mildly surprised that dropping the eggs and dairy didn’t really improve my energy, skin etc. as I thought it would (although I no longer get food cravings!). I am hoping that drinking green smoothies will help with that. I came across the article about how devastating vegetables are, and, being a skeptic, I searched further, and you’re article is far more convincing and seems to have some actual, you know, facts. Good job!
Each of the last 3year around Christmas, I started a 30 day nutribullet greens and fruit smoothly. It is strange that around mid March to April, I get kidney stones.This time, I went to a Encronologist and mentioned that I was doing green smoothies. They did a 48 hour urine test, and they did a test on my stones and it showed that my stones were made up of oxalate.
That is certainly a cause for concern and there is a rare person who has that reaction to foods with oxalates. Thanks for bringing this into consideration.