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Can Green Smoothies “DEVASTATE” Your Health?


Robyn Openshaw - Jun 01, 2012 - This Post May Contain Affiliate Links


Sarah the Healthy Home Economist online recently posted an article about how green smoothies can “DEVASTATE” your health.  The content was so unsubstantiated that at first I refused to respond to it. But Amanda said, “She has a big audience and people are freaking out about it.”

Sarah cites the oxalates phenomenon, wherein a natural compound (oxalates) occasionally bind to calcium to cause kidney stones. (She infers, without citing evidence, that other more serious health consequences could also be possible.) Greens have oxalic acid in them. Sarah makes several logic leaps and concludes that no one should be drinking green smoothies.

I’m not going to promote her blog article by pointing to it here. She rates her content for how controversial it is. Controversy generates more readers, I guess. It also has the potential to do harm, if what you’re saying is (a) undocumented, (b) contrary to hundreds of studies about the benefits of greens, and (c) featuring a bizarre and untenable conclusion.

Just because someone posts stuff on the internet does not automatically endow that person with credibility. Her argument locks in on a detail --- that greens are high in oxalic acid --- and misses the larger picture.

Only one source is listed at the end of her article and none are quoted or referenced. The source is a PhD’s book on oxalates and autism and “chronic disorders,” but she never quotes the author or anyone or anything else, so I’m not sure how many of her claims came from this one guy, or what.

I don’t bet the farm on one book or one source. There are quite a few other sources that show that some of the anti-nutrients in our most nutrition-dense foods, actually work together synergistically for our health, rather than against it. I’ve done quite a few blog series on anti-nutrients such as oxalates, goitrogens, purines, and phytates, concluding that none of the anti-nutrients should generally cause people to avoid foods containing them.

Note that at the end of the article, Sarah says to eat greens, if you like them, but not very much. Always cook them, she says, and eat them with butter.

Wow! Really?

Let me quote Dr. Norman Walker in his book Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices: What’s Missing in Your Body?

“Spinach should never be eaten when cooked unless we are particularly anxious to accumulate oxalic acid crystals in our kidneys with the consequent pain and kidney trouble. When spinach is cooked or canned, the oxalic acid atoms become inorganic as a result of excessive heat and may form oxalic acid crystals in the kidneys.

“When the food is raw, whether whole or in the form of juice, every atom in such food is vital ORGANIC and is replete with enzymes. Therefore, the oxalic acid in our raw vegetables and their juices is organic, and as such is not only beneficial but essential for the physiological functions of the body.

“The oxalic acid in cooked and processed foods, however, is definitely dead, or INORGANIC, and as such is both pernicious and destructive. Oxalic acid readily combines with calcium. If these are both organic, the result is a beneficial constructive combination, as the former helps the digestive assimilation of the latter, at the same time stimulating the peristaltic functions in the body.

“When the oxalic acid has become INORGANIC by cooking or processing the foods that contain it, then this acid forms an interlocking compound with the calcium, even combining with the calcium in other foods eaten during the same meal, destroying the nourishing value of both. This results in such a serious deficiency of calcium that it has been known to cause decomposition of the bones.”

So according to Dr. Walker, what Sarah is telling her readers to do is really terrible advice.

One of my favorite sources is George Mateljan, because his staff, and his book The World’s Healthiest Foods, review and quote a tremendous amount of empirical data before making claims. Each section contains an extensive bibliography, and the conclusions are scientific and objective.

He says that a review of the peer-reviewed research reveals that the ability of oxalates to lower calcium absorption is small and does not outweigh the ability of those foods to contribute significant calcium to the diet, since spinach is rich in calcium.

So, one of the primary recommendations of most the sources I’ve read, to avoid stones forming in the body, is to get plenty of calcium from plant sources.

So, the high calcium content in spinach may actually inhibit the formation of stones, even though spinach is also high in oxalates. This is at least some logic or evidence, then, underpinning my theory that there are far more synergies than we currently know about in whole, raw plant foods leading to their clear, incontrovertible place (based on volumes of published research) as the necessary mainstay in our diet. We know that people the world over who eat mostly whole, raw foods simply don’t get sick. We don’t always know WHY.

So screaming that the sky is falling about one compound---in an entire class of our most nutritious foods---seems not only unwise, but even irresponsible, if you have an audience and give nutrition advice.

The jury is still out on so many of the issues Sarah the Healthy Home Economist takes strong, unilateral stands on. For instance, what really causes oxalic acid buildup. (She quotes ZERO evidence that greens do.) Whether greens are high in oxalates are only ONE issue related to whether they cause kidney stones. What if they also have dozens of other nutrient compounds, and fiber, that PREVENT stones from forming? A relevant example would be Mateljan’s review of the published, peer-reviewed literature on spinach, oxalates, and calcium as mentioned earlier.

After I investigated this issue, I wrote this in Chapter 1 of 12 Steps to Whole Foods:

“The research is not clear that restricting foods such as spinach helps prevent stones in those who have previously had them. Many researchers believe that dietary restriction cannot reduce risk of stone formation. In fact, some foods that were assumed to increase stone formation because of oxalate content (like black tea) have appeared in more recent research to have a preventative effect.

“Further, cooking has a small impact (about 10%) on the oxalate content of foods, with no statistically significant lowering of oxalates following blanching or boiling of greens. It appears that the nutritional advantages of eating raw greens continue to far outweigh any benefit of cooking them.”

And yet, with slim evidence, if any, Sarah says green smoothies can “devastate” your health and advises at the end of the article, “Skip the Green Smoothies!”

She undertakes no discussion of the true baddies that cause kidney stones:

Soft drinks

Sugar

Animal proteins

Salty foods (or any refined salt)

Oxalates in spinach (also strawberries, soy, and many other foods) can be difficult to digest for a tiny percentage of the population who are suffering from a few very rare disorders (absorptive hypercalciuria type II, enteric hyperoxaluria, primary hyperoxaluria). But let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here. If you don’t have these disorders, and 99+% of those reading this don’t, greens are not just good food---they are powerful good medicine!

Leafy greens are the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, and cooking them as Sarah instructs kills 100% of their enzymes, and most of their vitamins and minerals, too.

Sarah the Healthy Home Economist uses hyperbolic words to terrify people that eating nutrient dense foods could kill them, but she cites no research whatsoever. She implies that cases of painful sex are on the rise (where does that data come from? Is there any data?) and that oxalates are a “possible culprit.”

There are no references to check, and the bigger issue to me is, if people develop kidney stones, or crystalline deposits in other parts of the body, are greens the real culprit? How would you isolate that factor? Show me the study that did.

It’s terribly unlikely that greens are why we have lots of kidney stones, since almost nobody in America eats very much green food.

And in addition to thousands of testimonials we’ve received, my own research (175 subjects) shows massive health benefits to the green smoothie habit, as published in my bestselling book, The Green Smoothies Diet. In that research, not one person reported kidney stones as a side effect of starting the daily green-drink habit. And yes, we asked.

Nutritionally, crystalline deposits are likely caused by highly acidic foods, especially salt, and not drinking lots of water.

So let’s minimize or eliminate the baddies, listed above. Let’s eat more of the foods that have been linked by hundreds of studies world-wide, to ideal weight and minimized disease risk.

(Dr. Joel Fuhrman does this best, in Eat to Live, quoting literally hundreds of published studies showing the benefits of eating plant foods. This is highly recommended reading.)

Let’s don’t kill greens with cooking, and slather butter on them.

If you’re worried about oxalates, let’s not “throw the baby out with the bathwater,” because people who don’t metabolize that anti-nutrient well need the nutrition in the leafy greens as much as anyone, if not more. Instead:

Let’s rotate greens, use a wide variety in our green drinks---not just spinach. Amanda says a friend of hers had oxalate issues and one took a calcium-magnesium supplement and the pain went away. Several experts I have read suggest getting more calcium from plant sources.

And, eat some good fats with your green smoothie, like avocado or coconut oil or flax oil, to increase calcium absorption. One of my favorite lunches is a quart of green smoothie, with some homemade guacamole and “corn chips” (organic corn tortillas, quartered with a pizza cutter and broiled on both sides, no oil or salt needed).

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16 thoughts on “Can Green Smoothies “DEVASTATE” Your Health?”

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  1. Robyn,
    I normally love what you post. I get your posts through my email and have for years but please be open minded on this topic. It’s not as cut and dried as both of you and Sarah may want to think. I don’t have kidney stones but I cannot tolerate oxalates. I found that out after damaging my body with them through green smoothies and juicing. I don’t think I’m as rare of case as you may think. I cannot eat ANY oxalates now without a reaction which was not the case prior to switching to a healthier whole food diet. The answer is to heal the gut *first* then add the greens and it’s a lot more detailed of a task than just drinking smoothies. I desire to eat more greens again someday and don’t think they will hurt me when I have proper digestion. I do think it’s important to not cling to any diet paradigm and make sure to adjust to each persons situation. Also, I think it’s important to remember that a big percent of the population suffers from poor digestion after coming off of processed foods so this problem may be more common than you want to think. I’ve had so many people come to me amazed that they didn’t know this could happen and asking for advice. I also think many more people are suffering from candida than realize it which also causes problems when eating oxalates. I think the candida is probably the main problem for most. I can eat meat but still cannot eat spinach without a reaction. I think you are probably helping a lot of people achieve great health and if you look at this open mindedly you will be even more valuable to them when you are able to identify this issue in the ones who have a problem early on. It showed up for me in small itchy rashes on my fingers in the beginning and over the course of two years spread as rashes up both hands and arms. I stopped eating all of the greens and the rashes went away! I can eat low oxalate greens now with no problem.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Robyn: I started with Eat to Live and bought your wonderful books also etc in Jan. 2011. I put raw spinach in nearly every Smoothie. I had lost 51 pounds. First let me say I am a believer in green smoothies…

    I am quite saddened to say that last month I was on the floor in 20 minutes writhing in pain from 2 kidney stones and had to have them blasted the next day. Now they found another. I have never had a problem before. Now some $15,000 later I am scared to resume it! I know the benefits but I now know the pain also. Coincidence? I don’t know.

  3. Anonymous says:

    PS–my ingredients were organic!

  4. Anonymous says:

    I love your green smoothies but I have hypothyroid and it is said that one should avoid spinach and kale and broccoli and cabbage.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Wow, that blog by S the HHE was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Her conclusions were completely off the mark. There are so many factors in people’s lives besides diet, that even a controlled study would be meaningless. First off, I have yet to meet a person who has suffered kidney stones that wasn’t on prescription meds. Stress and I think especially a stressful relationship can have a huge impact on health and organ function. I have a green smoothie made with a ton of spinach almost every day, and have been doing it for a couple years. When I skip a day, I can feel it, I bloat, my energy decreases, etc.. Carl, maybe there are other factors that should be looked upon. It really sucks when people who are in a position to influence others, make such uneducated and sweeping generalizations without credibility

  6. Dear Robyn,

    I am a huge fan of yours. I discovered Green Smoothie Girl almost two years ago and fell in love with your message. I have been drinking green smoothies ever since and feel great. Plus, I have a nine-year-old daughter who also loves green smoothies and I feel good about her drinking them! I love spinach and I eat it (mainly) raw, but I also saute it slightly when I add it to veggie pizza, lasagna, etc. My family and I have a huge garden and grow a lot of our own veggies. I’m 46-years-old and in better health than ever before! No one is going to tell me not to eat my spinach raw—especially when they don’t have any solid evidence to back it up. And I would never saute it in butter—yuck!

    I was really upset yesterday when I read this post and checked out Sarah’s blog (for the first time). After reading her (arrogant) bio and a few of her articles, I am convinced that she is not a person to take any nutritional advice from and I do not plan on visiting her site again.

    Here is a great online source of info talking about Oxalates. I think it will be helpful for a lot of your readers. I’m a huge advocate of moderation and balance in everything you eat and do. https://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48

    Thanks for all of the amazing work you do! I’m grateful for your insight on nutrition! I think I’m going to make a green smoothie right now with a handful of spinach!!! YUM!

    Take care, Jean

  7. Anonymous says:

    Excellent response, Robyn….. I am a nurse and it makes me nuts when I read sensationalistic articles with no evidenced based-research to back it up….. I was a lactation consultant for 25 years, and you can just imagine the deeply ingrained myths and old wives tales that still persist today in our Western culture concerning breastfeeding. Unfortunately many health professionals are not up to date in many areas – nutrition, especially – and much of their advice is incorrect, outdated, or simply what they’ve “heard”…..but being health professionals, their word is taken as gospel truth.
    It was you and your great information that inspired my journey into the world of green smoothies last summer , and now I am working towards a primarily plant-based, living and raw foods diet. Thank you for you commitment to the health and wellness of so many people.
    Keep on keeping on!
    Sandey in Panama

  8. Anonymous says:

    Hmmm. It’s an interesting argument. I’ve never had a kidney stone, but my brother-in-law and his wife have had quite a few. They both eat a lot of fast food, restaurant food, Monster energy drinks, and coffee. I’ve never seen them eat raw greens, ever. I’ll take my chances with green smoothies.

  9. Excellent response, Robyn. Thanks for following Amanda’s advice and addressing THHE’s blog. Sara is a bit arrogant/militant and your rebuttal was well documented and stated.

  10. Anonymous says:

    There is a lot of controversy on this topic, so I for one, was happy to have another opinion on the matter. I drank green smoothies for quite some time, but before her article even came out, I questioned the practice. It didn’t feel right for me at the time. I think that green smoothies work for many and are far better food than the junk food many eat these days, even with some anti-nutrients in them, but I think it is very beneficial to question ideas as we each strive to be healthy. All bodies are different and there is not a one size fits all diet. They many not be for everyone even though green smoothies have done good for so many people.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I actually really appreciated that article. I drank green smoothies for a long time and I felt good in the beginning, but started feeling bad and so I stopped drinking them, even after I convinced several others to drink green smoothies as well. My goal is to eat food that makes my body feel good. Sarah’s article was great to help me have greater understanding. I know you have sincere desires to help people be healthy, but I think I am thankful that there are other opinions. When I learned about oxalates, it made so much sense to me and I was so happy that I finally learned that eating certain foods raw was actually detrimental. I despised raw greens and drank it because they were good for me but I no longer feel guilty that I cook my greens! Yum. Thanks for doing your best to help others be healthy. I wish green smoothies made me feel good, but they just don’t.
    Sincerely, Julie

  12. Anonymous says:

    I am trying to figure out if my comments post.

  13. Truth is its’ own authority and needs no reference because of the author of truth whose Spirit dwells within us. Untrue extrapolations from truth certainly do not help the discussion. Thank you for your efforts here. I would like to add my belief that there are conditions wherein “green smoothies” lead directly to diminished health. Dr. Fuhrman, McDougall, and others qualify the benefits of drinking “green smoothies” with resounding caution to all who suffer from diabetes, insulin resistance, or any other blood glucose-related disorder, citing fully their reasons for giving these cautions and specific directive to all such persons. Given that most of today’s population is insulin resistant and a third or more are diabetic, it would be awesome if you would address issues such as the following:

    1. When do “green smoothies” lead to diminished eyesight, nerve, and organ damage?
    2. Under what conditions do “green smoothies” cause us to store body fat?”
    3. When do “green smoothies” lead to the loss of excess water weight?
    4. When do they lead to significant increases in water retention?
    5. When should we pay attention to feelings of nausea toward greens and why?

    I would love to see your talent grace the subject of why, when, and how “green smoothies” diminish health versus improve it. You are a powerful advocate for truth Robyn, and I know that doing so will serve to increase your readership and good influence. Thanks for all you do! Best! Jim

    1. Robyn Openshaw says:

      Hey Jim, when we write questions, they come with implied answers…..and I don’t think the answers here are clear or point in the direction of avoiding blended green drinks or all greens as was implied by the author of this article (blog post, really). Do YOU want to say something about this? Diabetics and any other insulin-resistant folks need to count their carbs and minimize the fruit in their smoothies, surely. I like to have them use fresh lemon juice and stevia to sweeten the smoothies, maybe a small amount of frozen berries or part of a tart apple.

  14. Anonymous says:

    I too like Brandie heard of a guy with kidney stones BUT he rarely ever ate anything healthy at all. Fast food was his primary diet, heavy on the processed/packaged foods, animal, loads of dairy and soda was his best friend! I have gone through so many bags of Costco spinach and have just kept in mind Robyn’s advice of Rotate your greens and change it up. Also, for people concerned about hypo-thyroid issues …maybe iodine, sea vegetables and among all the MANY benefits of the Chia seed I think I also read they too help the thyroid. I can’t imagine giving up my green smoothies, this has definitely put me on a better path. 12 Steps is amazing Robyn and I feel so grateful to everything I learn from you.

  15. Anonymous says:

    for everything! Typed too fast 🙂

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