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Ep. 150: Let’s Talk Stem Cells with Dr. Tami Meraglia, MD

Robyn Openshaw, MSW - Sep 25, 2019 - This Post May Contain Affiliate Links

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My colleague and friend, Tami Meraglia, MD, talks about what stem cell treatments can do, and theorizes why the U.S. just banned storing them and even ordered all banked stem cells destroyed! She has an anti-aging stem cell clinic near Seattle, the Seattle Stem Cell Center.


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  • [06:50] Do you feel just “fine?” Meraglia tells her story of how she moved from standard-of-care to stem cell treatment when standard tests told her clients they were “fine,” yet they felt anything but.
  • [11:05] Where do stem cells come from? There is a lot of misinformation out there about where stem cells come from (and almost no information about just how much they can do for you).
  • [16:33] And how do stem cells work? Stem cells are “multi-potent,” which means they haven’t specified into one type of cell yet. They grow by being added to where in the body they are needed.
  • [19:05] The FDA is up to something… And it’s probably money. The FDA is shutting down the use of your own stem cells, and there’s no clear reason why.
  • [36:31] What can stem cells do for me? There’s too many to list, but Dr. Meraglia does her best. Asthma, COPD, interstitial cystitis, erectile dysfunction and vaginal dryness, MS, Crohn’s disease, hair loss, Parkinson’s, orthopedics, and more.
  • [41:10] The plan from here. Dr. Meraglia talks about her documentary, masterclass, and what you can do for yourself if you’re considering stem cell treatment. Spread the word!


This transcript has been edited for clarity.

Robyn: Hey everyone, it’s Robyn Openshaw. Welcome back.

We are neck deep here at GreenSmoothieGirl with our nine-day Green Smoothie Challenge.

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Today I want to introduce you to a friend of mine. Her name is Dr. Tami Meraglia.

She’s a double board-certified medical doctor, and she’s a speaker and an author and she teaches physicians all over.

She’s been on NBC, ABC, Fox, Good Morning America, all that. She has a book called The Hormone Secret that was a national bestseller.

She is really on the train about stem cells these days. And she has stem cell clinics throughout the USA. She lives in Seattle and she does a lot of work with stem cells with her patients.

She’s here today to talk to us about some really disconcerting politics around FDA shutdown of banking stem cells, and other ways of using stem cells. She and I just have kind of a free-form chat going on today that I think you’ll enjoy as she gives us the scoop on all things stem cells.

Dr. Tami Meraglia, welcome to the Vibe show.

Dr. Meraglia: Thank you for having me.

Robyn:  You are a very high vibration person. You have an interesting background. Before you were a medical doctor, you were a ballerina, I do believe. Tell us.

Dr. Meraglia: I guess I’m balancing out the different hemispheres of my brain. [Laughter]

I left home when I was 15 to dance professionally with a ballet company, and spent 13 years dancing, working my way up to being a soloist. I toured all over the United States and even danced with a national Beijing Ballet Company in China for a while. So that was great. And I really thought when I went to school that I would be a physiotherapist because I was the only other profession I had ever been introduced to when I was injured.

I went to school thinking, “Oh, I’m going to be a PT.” And I ended up volunteering at a physical therapy place often and thought, “You know what, I can’t do this. There are all these people that just want me to give them a massage and they don’t want to change anything. They don’t want to change their strength. They don’t want to work in their posture or they don’t want to work on their diet if they’re a hundred pounds or even if they’re 20 pounds overweight. I don’t think I could do this for a lifetime. I want to work with people who want to be the CEO of their own health.”

So, I started going to school. And when you go to school long enough and do really well in chemistry, you end up with a premed degree. [Laughter]

Robyn: You were already really had a leaning towards helping people be well and prevention in nutrition and things like that. But then you chose to go into medical school.

I’m interested to hear how that happened and, and what it was like for you to go through medical school and have the approach be very (I would assume) slotted into standard-of-care where you’re going to learn to be able to do drugs, surgeries and the like.

Dr. Meraglia: I call it drugs and bugs. And cutting and drugging. Those are the first and the most common things.

I did end up deciding to go to medical school instead of naturopathic school, just because I was a real science nerd and I really loved the evidence-based approach of analyzing and reproducing the results and testing. And I felt — and this was a while ago — that naturopathic medicine wasn’t there.


FINE: The Four-Letter Word Stem Cells Can Treat

I ended up getting written up in residency for doing things like recommending my diabetic patients lose weight, exercise, incorporate cinnamon, educate them about what glycemic index was. And this is all stuff I just was interested in. I was literally written up for not following protocol. So it wasn’t easy. And also I was a little bit older, so with a respectful tone, I would ask a million questions. And of course that doesn’t go over very well with sort of traditional medicine model.

When I finished, I was in my clinic seeing patient after patient after patient after patient every 10 to 15 minutes. And my patients would tell me, “Oh this is going on. I don’t feel myself.”

And I would order the usual blood tests — CBC, iron levels, liver — and I would have them come back. And my training told me to tell them that they were fine because they met their reference range for being fine. And then all of them would say to me, “But doctor, I don’t feel fine.”

That’s when I realized that a fine is a four-letter word. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, “Gosh, today I want to be fine.” We want to be fabulous. And I also realized that the absence of disease does not equal wellness. It just means you’re not sick yet.

So, I dove back into school and education and ended getting board certified in Integrative Functional naturopathic medicine and opened a holistic approach clinic where I was seeing patients.

90% of what I did was holistic nutrition. Now, if I had somebody who came in with super, super, super high blood pressure, I would put them on a medication, but they were seen every two to three months with the goal of getting off of it. It was a temporary thing, which is what I think medication was designed to do originally.

I don’t think [medication] was designed to create customers, which is my opinion of pharmaceutical medicine now. You are not there to get a cure, you’re there to be a customer and to put lots of money in the pharmaceutical company’s pockets.

I kept going; my father has COPD and I helped him a lot. Things like carrot juice, which I know you would love, has been shown in clinical trials to actually rejuvenate and regenerate the lung tissue. Lots of things that we did, but I hit a brick wall.

Robyn: You should probably mention what COPD is.

Dr. Meraglia: It’s chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and it’s also called Emphysema and it’s from smoking. And my father smoked for many years. He was given cigarettes in the air force and he quit a decade before his diagnosis, but it didn’t matter. The damage was too far gone.

That’s what led me to bump into stem cell medicine actually. So I did not go into stem cell medicine as a doctor. I got into stem cell medicine as a daughter.

Robyn: Interesting. And now you’re really passionate about stem cells.

I know you’re coming out with a documentary, I believe, we’re facing a lot of politics. I want to get into all of that in this conversation, but why did you decide to really start focusing on stem cells? I see more and more MDs doing this, is this really just the cutting edge of the future of anti-aging?

What all can stem cells do?

Dr. Meraglia: Well, I feel like I finally found why I went to medical school. And truly there hasn’t been a more miraculous discovery other than maybe antibiotics and the ability to image with X-ray, MRI and CT. It’s that big.

Personalized cellular medicine and bio cellular medicine is going to change the future of medicine as we know it now.

You know how I’m older, so I have a smallpox mark.

Robyn: I do too. I was one of the last ones to get the smallpox vaccine and I had a scar until I was probably 30, but it’s gone now.

Dr. Meraglia: I still have it and my kids say, “Mommy, what’s that?” And I can’t wait tell surgical scars have a generation that goes, “Mommy, what’s that?” Because we healed using cellular and regenerative medicine instead of cutting and drugging.

Stem cells… The reason that I got in it is because there’s so much mis-information. I still to this day — we have a clinic in Seattle and then I have clinics across the nation, and then I have a clinic opening in Dubai and a Regenerative Center of Excellence with stem cell and a banking facility opening in Mexico — we get a lot of calls from all over the world and people still think that stem cells are from dead baby parts.

We start off educating. And that’s part of why I wanted to share with your audience: stem cells are safe and they’re available to you right now in the United States.

And yes, there’s a lot. It’s like the wild wild west. There’s chiropractors who are doing it. But if you do just a little bit of research and you arm yourself with some good questions, you can find a great place to save yourself surgery.

Robyn, I even have a patient who’s quadriplegic, has a spinal cord injury. His first appointment, he was in a power wheelchair. He had minimal use of his arms, none really of his hands at all, and no reflexes. Quad meaning all four: two arms and two legs don’t work.

He came back for his second treatment in a push wheelchair and I said, “Oh my gosh! This is so great.”

He says, “Wait a minute, doc, watch this.” And he stood up. All from his own stem cells!

We have patients with autoimmune conditions, heart conditions, lung conditions, all the joints. We’re one of the very few clinics in the nation that has something called a fluoroscopy unit, which is a real-time x-ray to do spinal and hip injections, traumatic brain injury. And I have a nonprofit organization called Healing Our Heroes at home and we treat veterans for free.

Robyn:  Oh wow. That’s amazing.

The fluoroscopy, is that a lot of radiation exposure?

Dr. Meraglia: It is a little bit; it’s similar to an x-ray, just a little bit less because we can turn it off and turn it on when we need it. But it’s super important if somebody is sticking needles into your back that they know where it’s going.

Robyn: Okay. So I just have to understand what the additional exposure, toxic exposures or risks are.

I have had a groin injury for over a year now and it’s kind of chronic. It’s not really bothering me, but it’s chronic, it’s been over year. And I’ve wondered if stem cells are the answer. I’m assuming — or I have assumed — that since I’m 52 I wouldn’t want to harvest my own stem cells because I’m too old, and I need to use somebody else’s stem cells. Am I wrong about that?

Dr. Meraglia: Yes and no.

Your own stem cells have cellular markers and cell-to-cell communication. So they’re really, really good at going and sticking where they need to go in areas of injury problems and inflammation. And there are two properties to your stem cells as we get older. One is they replicate slower and less effectively. And number two, they go down in quantity.

What we do is we take out fat or bone marrow (and we have laughing gas so don’t worry, you’re not even going to remember it, it’s not painful; you have a good time) and we concentrate it and then put it exactly where it needs to be. But many of our patients add other stem cells.

There’s kind of two philosophies, of “I don’t want anyone else’s DNA or genetic material, so I don’t want to use umbilical or amniotic,” even though those are very young, immune-privileged, meaning your body is not going to reject them.

There’s something called exosomes, and exosomes are the worker bees of every stem cell and they have no genetic material or DNA. So a lot of people add that to their own stem cells and it’s kind of giving them a superpower cape and sending them off.

Robyn: Interesting.

Tell us some of the really specific uses that you’ve seen miraculous results using stem cells in your clinic, which is in, by the way, the Seattle area.

Dr. Meraglia: Yes.

You know Bruce Lipton, correct? Dr. Bruce Lipton?

Robyn: Yes. And my interview of him, which wasn’t too long ago, is one of the most talked about episodes on this show. In fact, I’ve done two follow up episodes. Just me talking about my reactions and what I’m hearing from our readers about it.

Dr. Meraglia: He was one of the very first stem cell researchers in the nation. People don’t really realize it. He has a very deep scientific background and he was a professor teaching in medical school.

What he showed in his early, early research is that stem cells, when you put them in a petri dish, can become nerves and heart and lung and bone and cartilage and synovial, and it was all these amazing potentials. And that’s because they’re multi potent. They really haven’t differentiated into what they’re going to be yet. They haven’t grown up.

They grow up by putting them where they’re needing to be. Then that cell-to-cell communication is like, “Hey, we could really use some help over here. We need to get some cartilage in my knee. I was told I need to have a replacement, come give me some more cartilage.” And we know that from x-rays we can actually see an increase in the joint space, representing increased cartilage, and we know we can grow cartilage in a petri dish using stem cells.

We are one of the only clinics, actually, the only clinic that I know of in the nation, where [we] think of stem cells as seeds. And your body is the dirt. And when you’re trying to grow stuff, the soil matters a lot and we can up-level our soil.

We give every patient a complimentary nutrition guide, recipe book, and nutrition analysis, hormone analysis, inflammatory markers. They get blood work, look at their microbiome, look at their sleep, look at their stress, all of that, because I want everyone to have the best chance possible for their stem cells to be successful. And when you’re gardening you can make the dirt better, you can add fertilizer, worms, all kinds of stuff.


Stem Cell Treatment Vs. The FDA

Robyn:  You told me recently that the FDA is starting to regulate stem cells and that’s not surprising. I think people might assume that the FDA has a pure motive of protecting public health interests. But if you really take a look at the whole timeline of what the FDA spends its time and effort going after, it seems to be protecting profits for the pharmaceutical industry, which would make sense.

When you look at who actually sits on the FDA and Health and Human Services and the vaccine administration and all the other government watchdog agencies, they are really just trading places. They’re a total incest pool with the pharmaceutical company executives. I think FDA right now is headed by a former… I don’t know if it’s like a Merck CEO or it went the other way. Maybe an FDA chief went to Merck to be CEO recently, but —

Dr. Meraglia: Yeah, the FDA chief Dr. Gottlieb now sits on as on the board of one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the nation. I think I forwarded you that announcement.

Robyn: Yes, you just sent me that. This is only been the last couple of weeks. And so what does it mean for stem cells? Do people need to hurry and bank some stem cells? Can we still do it?

Dr. Meraglia: You cannot bank your stem cells in the United States. The FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, has decided that your stem cells from your fat are a drug, and you do not have the right to them.

Robyn: Wow. Yet they won’t put any limits on the Essure implant.

My podcast expert here, who’s worked for us for years, she’s hanging onto her health by her fingernails. And Bayer stopped selling it, but FDA never did ban it. And FDA has never even D listed it for the use of a contraceptive.

You’ve got the fact that they won’t stop selling opioids despite tens of thousands of deaths and families destroyed, but they are going take control over your own natural stem cells.

Dr. Meraglia: Let me explain how the loophole works that they got this done through.

There is a large stem cell group called U.S. Stem in Florida in a banking facility, and thousands and thousands of my patients have their stem cells stored there at their banking facility. The FDA said that, “Because your stem cells from your fat have an enzyme that is used to melt the fat in order to release the stem cells, that means that it is quote unquote more than minimally manipulated.” And that is the legal term that they have their entire case.

If something is more than minimally manipulated, it is deemed a drug. And because of that enzyme — which of course the enzyme is FDA approved — is used, and even though this stem cells aren’t touched or changed or affected in any way or manipulated, they prevailed and did a cease and desist, shut down the bank and ordered all of the patient’s own stem cells to be destroyed.

Robyn: That cost them a lot of money. A lot of people have spent a lot of money banking their stem cells.

Dr. Meraglia: And it’s your property, literally and figuratively. Like can you imagine your cash in a bank, who is just a custodian of your cash, telling the bank, “You got to destroy all this cash.” So they did end up getting a stay for the destruction because the patients got together and hired a lawyer, but they’re still not allowed to receive it.

Now bone marrow — so you can still get a stem cell procedure from your fat if you receive it that day. For now. There’s another hearing with another group from California in October. So if you’re thinking about doing this, give us a call, Seattle Stem Cell Center, because that might change right now. You can get your own stem cells that day. Just can’t bank it. And for now you can do bone marrow.

Why can you do bone marrow? Well, bone marrow stem cells are right there. You don’t have to do anything except for filter them. So there is no possibility of that loophole.

Here’s what I predict: I predict after this wave, the FDA will come back and come after bone marrow and say “You have to use it for homologous use,” which means you have to put it back exactly where it was from for the same reason. Bone marrow is a blood product out of your bones, and you’ll only be allowed to treat blood disorders.

That’s where I predict, and that’s why I’ve got a clinic opening in Mexico just in case.

Robyn: Oh my gosh. You’re going to Mexico to open a clinic so you can do business across the border, and you are still living in the U.S.

Dr. Meraglia: Yeah, I have to take care of patients. I’ve never seen anything more transformational in my life. Somebody has to do it. And I’ve been blessed to have lots of success, so I can go there. And it’s not my first choice, but —

Robyn: No, but yeah, there isn’t such a chokehold on medicine over there. I mean, I know of six clinics right across the border in like Rosarito and the Tijuana area that are practicing medicine in cancer because, of course, FDA wants to protect the monopoly that is the chemo radiation and surgery approach in the U.S. And so if you’re a physician who wants to offer some different kind of treatment, no matter how evidence-based it is, you can’t do that in the United States, or you’re going to risk losing your license.

Going across the border may be a good option for you. It’s too bad that we have to do that

Dr. Meraglia: For now, we’re still here. Patients call us and they travel from all over the United States, from Europe, from Sweden, from Vietnam; a patient just confirmed their appointment from Egypt. It’s crazy.

Here’s the really crazy thing. You would think it’s just places like Mexico. It’s not; Japan has reviewed the research on stem cells and decided it’s so effective and safe that they approved it. So now the citizens of Japan are allowed to get stem cell treatments without paying.

Robyn: Wow. So other first world countries, so much like many other medical issues, if you think that the U.S. is leading out, you have to cast a wider net and take a look at what other countries are doing. I’m actually interviewing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on vaccine issues. He’s pledged the rest of his career to shining the light on issues of safety for children. With the way Pharma is just having its way with our government and running over the top of us.

One of the most telltale ways that we can see how very corrupt our government has become when it comes to regulating everything to do with health and wellness is just to take a look at how other first world countries are doing it. And it’s dramatically different.

That’s interesting about the case of stem cells. Tell us more about what other countries are doing that that’s different than the monopoly and shut down that we’ve got going on here in the U.S.

Dr. Meraglia: Yeah, there’s some countries that are following in the U.S.A.’s steps. There’s Health Canada: two weeks ago sent letters and made a huge announcement and put in immediate cease and desist. So all stem cell clinics are closed, period.

There’s one physician in Toronto that said, “No, I’m not doing anything wrong. I’m not stopping, but I invite you to come and take a look at what I’m doing. I’m not manipulating cells. You need to come see this.” So good on him. But you know, they also could just say, “Okay, well then you have no license.” They can do that. Canada’s following suit.

Brazil is open. Panama is open. Japan — which Japan is very, very well advanced in science, very, very educated first world country and they’re one of the leaders — you’ll want to put on your seatbelt because you know who one of the top countries is in stem cell medicine? India.

Robyn:  Wow. Wouldn’t have guessed that.

Dr. Meraglia: That wouldn’t be something that you would compare, but they have decided that it’s less expensive to treat people with something that has less side effects and more success.

Robyn: Yeah. And I should mention, I don’t want to imply that only the United States government is super corrupt when it comes to turning a blind eye to the monopoly, the increasing monopoly, of Pharma.

But the loss of medical freedom that is really, right now, a massive threat to human health, in my opinion — there’s other countries too. We should not act as if other countries don’t have some serious issues and loss of freedom and that the pharmaceutical industry — which is possibly the wealthiest industry in the history of the world — does not have major sway with other first world nations.

Make sure that we make that clear because Canada certainly struggles with the exact same kinds of things. So do the countries of western Europe and probably everywhere in the world. But it is interesting to see how political the issue is, and what makes that really clear is looking at how different it is in all these different countries. It’s just a big fight right now. There’s a big fight over money because there’s a lot of money in stem cells as well.

Dr. Meraglia: There is, and I wonder what the conversation was when medicines stopped using leeches. That was a big thing. [Laughter] I wonder if there was big push back. Like “No, this is the best!”

Medicine has never been an industry that almost ironically uses the Socratic method. And it should, and it boasts that it does, but it vehemently opposes things until the moment it’s readily accepted. There’s no in between of, “Huh, this is interesting. Let’s explore this with an open mind. Wonder what this could do? What are the benefits? What are the risks? How could this bless people’s lives? Could this save us a lot of money and help more people?” There isn’t that.

I always remember the story of the Australian physician who discovered that stomach ulcers were from a bacterium. And do you know that his medical license was revoked for — and get this — the charge was heresy.

Robyn: Wow. As if it’s a religious subject, I mean heresy? Really?

Dr. Meraglia: And they didn’t believe him until he infected himself with the h pylori bacteria to prove that ulcers are from bacteria, not stress.

Robyn: Yeah. It really is a problem, not just in even in the health and wellness space, but in the political environment in general these days. It seems like there, we’ve lost that dialectic process.

I remember the founders of the United States of America sat in a room and they debated for hours and hours and hours, but they would come to some kind of reasonable compromise. And we seem to not do that. Just like you said in this particular case, why don’t we sit in a room for a day or a week or a month, however long it takes with these huge important issues and hear each other out and listen to it and have clean motives.

It’s frustrating. And I think it really goes back to everything we do here on the Vibe show. That we need to take responsibility for our own health. If we just put the blinders on and put ourselves in the waiting room of the guys in the white coats, the ladies in the white coats —

Dr. Meraglia: — nobody ever meets me wearing scrubs and asks if I’m a doctor, not ever.

Robyn:  What?

Dr. Meraglia: I’ve always been asked if I’m a nurse. Nope.

Robyn:  What? In 2019 they always think you’re the nurse? As soon as you go get your Man Boss, then they’ll accept some medical treatment. Huh.

Dr. Meraglia: Well, my patients are great. My patients are really the CEO of their own health. They’re adventurous, they’re independent thinkers. They are in charge. They’re seeking us out because they know that we are working for them, with them.

I should say that I don’t think stem cell medicine should be unregulated. I’m the first one to be nervous about chiropractors and other practitioners who’ve never had any training, educating; owning stem cells, hiring providers to just stick needles in people for profit. I think that this is a very powerful form of medicine and it ought to have some training, certification, guidelines, just like everything else. You wouldn’t want your appendix removed by a dermatologist. That’s not their training.

I don’t think it should be unregulated, but I think that their motivation is profit. I think their motivation is protection of the profits because the drugs and the devices, the cutting and the drugging, can be cut in half or more with stem cell medicine as your first option.

Robyn: You don’t think that’s really their motive, do you? That stem cells are going to solve too many problems and it’ll shut down so many of our drugs and technology approaches in standard of care medicine? Is that what’s going on here? What is their motive in shutting down all banking of stem cells?

Dr. Meraglia: I can’t come up with any other reason.

Robyn: Yeah, me neither.

Dr. Meraglia: And I’m not a paranoid person. And you know, I’m not a conspiracy person. That’s my husband. I married an Italian. He’s like, “It’s a conspiracy. Everything.” I’m not! But I cannot figure out what their agenda is.

They say it’s for patient safety. I’m part of a national clinical trial that has 12 IRB investigational certificates that are registered with the NIH, and we’ve done over 11,000 documented stem cell procedures without any deaths, any hospitalization, any worsening of the condition, no bleeding, no infections. The worst that has happened so far is that it doesn’t work.

There are a couple of cases of patients that went blind from a stem cell treatment, but that wasn’t the stem cells’ fault. If you had put normal saline in the eye, the way that the stem cells were, it would have increased the ocular pressure and you have always run the risk of a retinal detachment when you increase the pressure. So it was the mode of injection rather than the stem cells itself, we believe, and really? Three cases? How many times are people harmed or get worse with medication, oncology, medication, surgery, death, even from traditional medicine? And if the percentage is low enough, it’s deemed to be acceptable, but not here.

Robyn:  Yeah, that’s what makes no sense. When we have a chemotherapy drugs that since the early 1970s have a terrible track record and yet they’re still in the market…

Dr. Meraglia: It hasn’t improved!

Robyn: Yeah, and all you have to do in order to put a new chemotherapy drug on the market is, you just have to beat the control. You just have to beat the accepted drug, the drug that’s already out there. It doesn’t matter that that drug is actually killing people at an unacceptable rate by anybody’s standards. Once it gets traction, once it gets approved, it’s pretty hard to remove it.

It’s very hard to understand the thinking here. If it isn’t just, “This is a threat to too much industry, too many dollars are going to disappear if we have the widespread use of people’s own stem cells.”


What Stem Cell Treatments Can Do

Tell us where you’re — you know what, before we tell everybody where your upcoming film is going to be found and how they can check it out and everything about where they can reach you, will you just run through a laundry list of the conditions that you’ve seen in your practice helped by stem cells?

Dr. Meraglia: Oh, I would love to, but I’m going to leave some out because there’s so many.

Our clinic doesn’t treat cancer and that’s just because that isn’t something that I have the training to monitor and take care of people. I tell patients there’s always a chance that this could transform your life. And we have amazing statistics better than the national average, I think because of our holistic approach. But there’s always a chance that it could do nothing at all. But we promise to bless your life and take care of you.

I don’t have the knowledge to take care of cancer patients who have active cancer. But I told you about our patient Cooper: if you go to Seattle Stem Cell Facebook, he has a video of him standing up out of his wheelchair at his physical therapy clinic. It’s so exciting.

We have asthma, the COPD and emphysema that my father had, congestive heart failure cardiomyopathy after a heart attack.

Urology conditions, interstitial cystitis. That’s an odd one to remember, but if you have it, it’s terrible and there’s no treatment, and it’s super painful and we have great success with it.

We do erectile dysfunction and a lot of women are being put on birth control pills when they’re older because they have vaginal dryness and their partner, their husband or whoever is, it’s painful to have sex. We can fix that with a vaginal stem cell treatment. It’s so easy.

Lot of autoimmune conditions. MS, Peripheral neuropathy, rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, diabetes.

We can rejuvenate your hair. We can get it to grow back.

Traumatic brain injury, muscular dystrophy, Parkinson’s, stroke, and then all the orthopedic stuff, neck, spine, back, knee, hip, elbow, hand, shoulder, ankle, foot.

We have a patient who was bucket list was to climb and hike the Himalayas and he had to put it off for 15 years because of pain in his knee. He couldn’t even walk, let alone hike. After his third treatment, I said, “So where are you going to go? Are we going to see you again? In three months or six months. What’s your plan?”

And he says, “I’m going to the Himalayas.”

So, we have a life-long bucket list dream. And I said, “Okay, you have to take a picture of you on the Himalayan mountains.”

“Because of my own stem cells, I can do my dream.”

And then we have a lot of VIP celebrity biohacker patients who come from all over the world for anti-aging. And then we have a total-body stem cell treatment. So, you come for three days, you do hyperbaric, you do IV therapy, NAD, glutathione, we look at all your hormones. You get your supplements that you need that are customized for you, we treat your hair, your skin, every joint intravenously and we do the male enhancement or the female “femme shot,” we call it, as well. And they’re with us for three days, flying from all over for that.

Robyn:  Is that like the O-shot, is that like a sexual health related thing?

Dr. Meraglia: Yeah.

Robyn:  Okay.

Dr. Meraglia: To increase sexual pleasure. But it also is more medical. It literally rejuvenates the tissue so that it’s no longer dry and painful to have sex.

Robyn:  Okay. So you’re doing a bunch of things that aren’t necessarily stem cell related, kind of a three-day anti-age.

Dr. Meraglia: For the total health. Yeah. That’s the dirt part, right?

Robyn: But then some of the things you’re doing in the three days are stem cells in the joints and stem cells in the sexual organs to increase your sexual health? Yes?

Dr. Meraglia: Yeah. And IV and hair and skin.

Robyn: Well, tell everyone where they can learn more about you and what you’ve got coming up.

Dr. Meraglia: We have a documentary and a masterclass series that’s launching in April.

Our goal with this is A) if you’re going to get a stem cell procedure, you ought to up-level the dirt and B) if you’re not going to get a stem cell procedure, you do have stem cells in your body and what can you do to make them more active and make them increase in number instead of decrease so that they can work harder to rejuvenate you?

That’s our documentary and masterclass series that’s launching in April.

The best thing to do is to opt into our list on our website, You can call us at 800-817-YES-STEM. That’s 800-817-YES-STEM if you’d like a complimentary consultation to learn more about if stem cells are right for you.

Lastly, share this information. Google has banned the term “Stem Cell.” So we can’t use Google, we can’t advertise, we can’t make claims. We’re not allowed to put patients on TV because that’s saying it’s working, and a testimonial in an ad is considered making a claim and it’s not FDA approved. So we really need a revolution. We really need people to say “No, my cells, my body, my choice,” and spread the word.

Robyn: I appreciate that. We have never spoken up on the podcast about some of these issues because we’re afraid too. Not so much on the podcast. Like I said, I’m going to be interviewing next month Robert F. Kennedy, the nephew of the president, the son of the original Robert F. Kennedy of course, about vaccine issues. And I may bring on Dell Bigtree or someone else. And I have to take a deep breath to do that.

But the reason is, Google banning the term “stem cell,” I don’t think people realize how much shutdown of information there is outright. It’s back to book burnings. I mean, anyone who is critical of the vaccine schedule knows, where you now have to get 70 doses of vaccines with lots and lots of heavy metals and toxic adjuvants and many of them are unproven and there’s no control group testing against them and the pharmaceutical industry is way too involved in the testing.

Netflix has banned all the documentaries about the issues with vaccines. Amazon kicked off the books and the movies about it. We have over a thousand public figure pages kicked off of Facebook just for any criticism whatsoever about the rise of more and more and more vaccines. I mean, folks, there’s over 350 vaccines in testing right now.

There is a rush to market for more and more and more vaccines. Are we okay with 70 doses by the age of 18 for a variety of untested or very little tested vaccines? And we just roll them out. We rolled them out to millions of people and then in many states now, I think yours is one of them, where they just totally cut back on any kind of medical exemptions. And I don’t even know if Dr. Meraglia agrees with me on any of the concern I have about our loss of medical freedom.

Dr. Meraglia: Absolutely.

Penicillin saves many people’s lives, and it can kill others, and there is nothing in medicine that is good for everyone, including vaccines. So I don’t think that we should just take the stance that, “This is right for everyone.”

I live in Washington state. I got a letter from my daughter’s private school. She goes to a Catholic school that unless we can prove her measles vaccine or an antibody to it, she’s not allowed to go to the school. Not keep her home if she has measles or if there’s measles: flat out, not allowed to go to school

Robyn: If she doesn’t follow the current protocol, even though the protocol keeps changing, we keep adding vaccines and then we see all these meteoric rises in so many childhood issues.

Dr. Meraglia: Have you heard of the vaccine that’s in development right now for boys who are quote unquote “aggressive” before the age of 10.

Robyn: Oh, our poor, our poor boys. We already have our girls, actually, and our boys with the HPV vaccine, such a nightmare to me. That’s such a clear one to opt out of. But it’s big, big money.

Dr. Meraglia: I’ll share something with you. You know LinkedIn.

In LinkedIn I get ads (because of course everybody’s targeted) I get ads that are from the CDC and from other organizations that say, “Let us help you increase your HPV rate.” It’s like a contest incentivizing doctors to focus on increasing the number of people that they can get vaccinated.

Robyn: It’s so interesting because you know, 25 years ago, I remember here locally in Utah, OBGYNs were in contest for, who could prescribe the most Prozac? And they would get to go on really expensive, extravagant trips hosted by the drug companies for doing that.

Well now that’s illegal. But then there’s still these places, vaccines are one of them, where it’s so politically popular to have this position of virtue. If you’re for all the vaccines… “I’m for all the vaccines that the drug industry ever wants to present and force on my child and all the children of our nation. We’re just for them. We’re categorically for them.” And if we object to any part of that, we are anti-vaccine and we are gaslighted and made to feel like we’re crazy and wrong and anti-medicine and kooky Weirdos.

But for some reason, what was banned literally I think two decades ago that drug companies can’t incentivize GPs and OBGYNs for prescribing antidepressants which is clearly counter to public health interests (someone should be prescribed something if it’s the right thing for them, not because their OBGYN is gunning for an expensive trip) we’re doing that with vaccines now.

But because it’s been made very virtuous — you have big groups of celebrities wearing badges that say, “I got vaccinated today,” it’s very cool and trending — it’s just another one of the examples. Like you said, we don’t have people from both sides of the aisle coming together. We just have this ferocious dug-into-the-trenches-and-gunning-at-each-other issues.

Back to your original point, which I thought was very, very important as individuals, we have to speak up. Nobody’s going to kick us out of our personal page on Facebook. And unfortunately, my personal page on Facebook (not the GreenSmoothieGirl public figure page, but my personal page) is the only place that I’ve been able to speak freely on the subject of, like 30 states in the last year have been facing bills that will cause the end to medical freedom for parents and for adult too.

I mean, we may lose our right to get a social security number or a driver’s license if we don’t have the 70 or 90 or however many it ends up being vaccinations that the pharmaceutical industry demands that we get. And so we have to speak up individually. We have to talk to people in a credible way.

I was on the tennis court today and a medical doctor teammate of mine said “God I was in bed all day yesterday. I was so sick.” It was because she got the shingles vaccine and my tennis coach said, “Well, it’s a lot better than getting shingles. I’m glad you got it. It was the right thing to do.”

And is that the place? No. While I’m sitting there hitting tennis balls and playing with my team, I didn’t say a word, did not say a word about my opinions on that because I have to have the right time and space to really flush it out.

Getting educated about it and being able to speak up authoritatively with the evidence and the actual serious concerns we have about the loss of our medical freedom is really important. So I’m super glad you brought that up.

So next April your masterclass will be out. You want to increase your stem cells. One of the most powerful ways you can do that, and it’s been proven in many clinical trials, is our modified fast.

You can water fast for a week or two weeks. I’ve done it. I can’t work, I can’t live my life while I do it, but coming out in late August,, is our modified fast. You can massively increase your stem cell production and it’s super inexpensive. All organic, keeping your calories under 800 per day, five little mini meals, is going to be amazing for just like $13 a day. All organic., since we’re talking about stem cells, it occurs to me that that is a very powerful way that you can increase your stem cells.

Also go to to be able to follow the work of doctor Dr. Tami Meraglia and Tami, I’m so delighted to get to connect with you again today and I think the work that you’re doing is courageous and amazing and just keep on keeping on.

Dr. Meraglia: Thank you for helping get the word out because as you have just heard and learned, it’s a challenge. And people have a right to know what their options are.

In medicine there’s something called “informed consent” and in informed consent, you’re supposed to be told all about the drug, all about the procedure, what the risks are, what the benefits are, and what the alternatives are. And we are not, in this country, providing alternative routes of treatment as part of informed consent.

So, I need help. I need everybody to get their free consult if they’re interested in it, or if there’s a loved one, get on our list so that you can watch the documentary and learn. Because you’re the CEO. It might not be the best thing for you, but shouldn’t you be given the opportunity to learn?

Robyn:  Perfect end point for this conversation. Thank you for your great work in the world and I will see you soon.

Dr. Meraglia: Thanks so much. Have a beautiful day.

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  1. Michelle McGee says:

    In Texas, where I live – the treatment for MS using stem cells was legalized. I do not know for any other condition, buy there are a few practioners ( chiropractors) I think who advertise stem cell help with joints, pain etc. May be they can only use others stem cells like umbilical cord, not sure. I’ve thought of trying this, my MS is now really affecting my brain function even after drastically changing my diet and losing 75 pounds! As I see it happening rapidly, and only 62, I’m very concerned and not sure which direction to go anymore! Very good talk and learned a lot. Thank you for this interview and topic!

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