What happened when my root-canal teeth were pulled
Can you stand one more update related to traditional dentistry versus holistic (biological) practices? It’s the last chapter in the story I told you in August.
I told you that when I had my two root-canal teeth extracted, I paid a few hundred dollars for an analysis of what bacteria were found in them. I just got my results back from the lab in Colorado.
Dr. Wall (my biological dentist in Bountiful, Utah) told me BOTH my root-canal teeth he pulled were failing. Since then, I’ve talked to half a dozen other dentists and people who have extensive experience with root canals.
You would think that, with all the things I do right, I would have better luck than that. I confess to being more than a little disappointed that a bone graft and so much dental work would be required, notwithstanding my earlier years of eating lots of candy, ice cream, and diet soda.
But did you know that the EXPECTED time that a root canal lasts is a max of 10 years? That’s right—endodontists KNOW that their procedure has a very limited life. My brother Dave was in an ATV accident 10 years ago, where his teeth planted in the steering wheel and killed ten of them. He had root canals on all, and guess what.
Yep, they’re all failing.
Not that those pleomorphic organisms trapped in an anaerobic environment, in a dead organ, are really contained during that 10 years anyway. They’re not! “Failing” just means that there are visible, discernible signs of rampant infection and decay. (Obviously it didn’t get that way overnight!)
In my case, the signs were mild tooth sensitivity, and a blister on the gums covering the tooth. A raging, itchy rash on my trunk and arms that came and went for 2.5 months, until I realized it was related to my teeth. (Managed with the essential oils patchouli, and geranium. GONE after removing the teeth.)
Have you ever thought about the fact that the tooth is an organ? The biological dentist knows this. It is part of an interconnected meridian in the body. When it dies—or is injured and we kill it dead and leave it there—we are truly fossilizing a dead organism in our living mouth. And we think this won’t cause problems!
So, my sample came back saying that 10 bacteria were detected in the tooth sample. None of them were in the “active” concentration, where the microorganism is alive and well and not being effectively attacked by my immune system.
But two were in the “bright” concentration, which means “heavy concentration of the microorganism.”
Campylobacter rectus
Prevotella melaninogenica
I’m not panicking about this. Fact is, everybody has candida, everybody has cancer, most people probably have strep and even MRSA micro-organisms too. Everybody has many yeasts, molds, fungi, viruses, bacteria, and the toxic waste byproducts of those critters, in our blood and gut and organs.
Believe it or not, candida can actually have valid functions in the human body. In proportion, in tiny amounts in a teeming, healthy ecosystem, it’s not a problem.
The problem is when those baddies get out of hand. When the good guys in the body, like macrophages and healthy micro-organisms, are overcome (by antibiotics! GMO-frankenfoods! Sugar feeding yeast and fungus!) and the baddies get out of control.
Killing tissues / organs such as your teeth, then trapping the bacteria in the teeth, deprived of oxygen, makes the baddies become super-psychos. That’s a gross oversimplification, but a google search on those two bacteria reveal that my own two breeds of baddies cause heart attacks, impaired immune response, and…..genital tract infections!
Shudder.
It’s weird to be missing two teeth. But I’m glad the super-psychos are gone.
Dr. Wall had offered me an antibiotic the day of my surgery, since he knows the baddies are now out, and running around. I said no thanks, that I wanted to help my body manage it. And it did. Every time I think of this, I send a gratitude message inward, thanking my body for heroic immune function during a rough patch!
For two weeks after the surgery, I didn’t feel great. Not sick or anything, just like my immune system was straining. Like it was for the few months between the root-canal “failure” and actually having the teeth out. I just didn’t feel like myself. I did my workouts, but they were tough.
Then I went to my Body Talk practitioner, Ellen. Learn about it at bodytalksystem.com. I have resisted “energy work” for years. I still love things that are evidence-based, so I gravitate towards things mostly easily proven.
Body Talk uses EFT, muscle testing, and more to listen to the body and shift its energies for clearing and release through shifts in various systems. The results show up physically, in relationships, in emotions, and in well being.
I’m not the world’s most metaphysical person, even if I understand there’s a mind-body-spirit connection. (I just don’t trust human beings to be able to decode something that sophisticated. It always seemed kind of…..unknowable.)
But my friend Wendy had been nagging me to go try it out, for years. Her children had phenomenal results, utterly life changing for their whole family. And my amazing employee Amanda felt the same way, and repeatedly told me she wanted me to go see Ellen.
I went, with my rather notoriously skeptical (but committedly open-minded) attitude.
I’ve been several times now. And the results are undeniable. I won’t get into a detailing of ALL of my results. Too much for this blog.
But after my oral surgery, plus two weeks of feeling like I was struggling, Ellen told me I had 48 microorganisms ranging my body since the teeth were pulled.
And she did her voodoo on me. I’m not kidding when I tell you that you have to be OPEN MINDED to receive and accept this kind of work.
And I left there completely WELL again. I mean, I never felt, for one minute, like I had for 3 months prior to that. Shocking. I didn’t even EXPECT that from the session. I just noticed the next morning that I felt like myself for the first time since the blister appeared on my gums and the rashes started. I have not had one minute, since then, of the old feeling of being only 80%. I have felt only 100% healthy and energetic.
So, it’s too good not to share, if you’re open to some mind-body connection-energy work. If you’re in Utah County, or Boise, Ellen can be reached at 801-669-1745.
And Dr. Sean Ulm in Lindon, and Dr. Judson Wall in Bountiful, are my holistic dentists.

I just finished another session at Dr. Wendell Robertson’s office this last Tuesday. 5 and a half hours later but it was a whole section of teeth. He told me that on one tooth, where a crown had been placed a number of years ago, had bacteria under the gumline and most dentists would just ignore that. He is a great dentist. he has now done two sections of my teeth. i need to get the upper sections done eventually. He painstakingly gets the bad out and builds up the teeth. Lifetime guarantee on them. He is a holistic dentist i trust. He also took the metal out of that section of my teeth. Yay. And in a very safe way.
Robyn, what are you going to replace those two teeth with? Zirconium implant? Also you said you had a bone graft. What did you use? My holistic dentist advises there are 3 options, cadaver, bovine and synthetic. All 3 creep me out, but he does recommend either cadaver or bovine. I wonder what the person died of and what the cow ate. Also what do you recommend for filling cavities? I understand composite is really too soft for biting areas. I have a lot to deal with in my mouth unfortunately. Thanks.
Hi Robyn,
My husband had a toxic root canaled tooth removed a couple of years ago, but he still has the gaping space and just a plastic tooth insert that he wears to sleep. We just haven’t figured out what to do yet, because do not want him to have metal in his mouth, but we do not like the plastic either– and we don’t like the short lifespan of implants. With the zirconium implant, is there a titanium rod placed into the jaw onto which the implant is placed? Do you know the life expectancy of such an implant? Our holistic dentist is not using this technology yet, although he knows about it somwehat.
Lisa
Patti, I have eleven composite fillings in my mouth and they have been good to me so far. They were done by a holistic dentist who says they should last 15 years. I think the material is a bit weaker than amalgram, but it is much safer so I will take that. I don’t bite into hard things and have trouble biting things like whole almonds– I can almost feel that I could hurt my fillings and therefore am careful.
Lisa
Robyn, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your story! Toxic root canals are unfortunately so overlooked even in the community of holistic-minded people. My Dad is a Biological Dentist in MD and he does this DNA test routinely and every time it comes back with some bacteria. It’s unbelievable what is showing up! I had 2 Titanium implants put in 10 years ago due to a bad accident which caused me to lose both teeth. Fortunately my Dad didn’t do root canals on them because he was already aware of the dangers, but I did have titanium implants put in because there wasn’t much word about zirconium back then. Recently I had one of the implants tested using the preliminary DNA testing (which tests for less bacteria than the post-extraction test) and it came back with 5 bacteria around it! So now I’m considering having them replaced with either zirconium implants or a partial. Well anyway, thanks again Robyn!! Best of luck to you with all of your dental work!
Renee, is it possible to let me know who your dad is, since I live in MD and would love to find a good bio dentist. I’ve got a mess going on here, and my 22 yr. old daughter already has 3 root canals with clearly wrongly placed crowns. One has fallen off twice in a year with permanent cement. We need a great dentist!
Robyn, great story. I’m horrified now to think how much bacteria I likely have from the nightmare that is my mouth.
Where were you 2 weeks ago when I impulsively sought out an endodontist to give me my first root canal… wasn’t even emergency. Just thought I was doing a good thing. Spent almost two thousand dollars by the time I paid for a cat scan, the root canal, the temporary filling, the permanant filling.. and then, the tooth broke .. and another $300 for a temporary patch up. And the tooth still has feeling and is sensitive. I feel like I am in the vortex of a money pit.
Dr. Wall pulled 11 (yes I said 11) root canalled teeth of mine. It was an 8 hour surgery to remove those teeth, remove all the mercury and build up the remaining teeth. Unfortunately for me it was tooooo late the remaining teeth all abcessed and had to be pulled. Please, please, please do not have a root canal done. It will ruin your health, cost you lots of money and you will lose the tooth anyway in the end. P. S. Dr Wall is amazing!!!!
ugh… great.. i JUST had the joy of chipping my tooth in a li’l accident, which required a root canal and cap. so now i have a stub tooth rooted out w/a cap glued on… I’m not looking forward to seeing what happens in a few years under that nasty cap. the dentist did a great job, but after reading about your story and the baddies in dead teeth, i’m hoping that in a quick few years, they’ll have some stem cell tech to regrow/replace my missing tooth!! i better ask my dentist about the mid and long term consequences i have to look forward to with my tooth.
thx for sharing your story. hey! blog posts always are better w/pics… why didn’t you post any pics on this post??? hahaha
Hi Robyn, Is there such a thing as porcelain implants? I thought I saw that on your site somewhere? I plan on having my recent root canals taken out soon! Glad you are still talking about all of this. Also, I have a book I have wanted you to read for about 2 years now, where would I send it? Thanks, Christa
Robin, have you had an silver (mercury) amalgams removed at all? I have 4 to be removed and am considering doing this now before trying to get pregnant in 2-3 months. I had a miscarriage at 20 weeks last month and I have no answers other than it was likely my hypothyroidism. I also have a bad root canal tooth that needs to be pulled. Wondering if all this work (even with a careful biological dentist) makes sense to do now? Mercury will still get into my system and I’ve read can take a year to get out of your system with a focused detox plan
Oh my! I had a 20 year old root canal in an upper molar that was stuffed with amalgam explode in pain and had it pulled in February. I, too, have had a horrible itchy scaly thing inside my ear and back of my scalp on that same side for – get this – FIVE years. No steroids, creams, shampoos would touch it. Had the tooth pulled and had a week of vomiting and vertigo. But now the hole has healed, the itchy patches are almost gone on my scalp and my ear canal finally stopped itching. I have only one week of smoothies in me so I am new at this. And I am 260 lbs. so I have a long way to go. My question is this: I have an appointment for a titanium screw implant. I can’t chew over on that side so something needs to be done. I was initially attracted to smoothies because I just can’t handle chewing meals anymore. My dentist says titanium does not harm the body by leaching like amalgam does. Does any smart person out there have wisdom to share on titanium implants?
Lori, good to know, because I know less about him than the other Utah holistic dentists. Congrats on getting the metal out, etc!
Patti, I’m going to get a zirconium implant, or maybe two. I consulted with a biological dentist in Europe about it, too, and will continue with Dr. Wall’s recommendation on that. No more metal (i.e. titanium!) in my mouth!
I did not do any of those three bone grafts. All it really was is mixing my own blood / platelets, in some kind of implant that was basically a plug of my own stem cells sewn into it, covered with stitches. Dr. Wall said the healing was quick and phenomenal and the bone is already ready to accept the implant. In Europe, they do it after only 2 months.
Renee, how lucky that your dad’s a bio dentist. Ask him what he thinks of the use of lasers? Do they really work? Since my dental work, replacing some VERY deep fillings, for three months now, I still have major tooth sensitivity. They’re telling me laser treatment will help. But the laser is $2500. !!
Lisa, good question about the rod, and I will ask. About that and the life expectancy, though one of the bio dentists I’ve worked with told me that titanium implants have only been around for 20 years and he knows of lots of patients who have 20-yo implants still going strong. Another dentist told me zirconium implants have a high breakage rate. I’ve got some research to do. Few dentists, even the bio ones, do zirconium. Very specialized i guess.